Friday
01Aug2008
BRITISH CONSERVATIVE FOR US LIBERAL..
Friday, August 1, 2008 at 01:21PM So, London Mayor Boris Johnson has come out and declared that he, a leading British Conservative, wants to see Obama as next US President. How impressive.
Just a few points on this;
1. Boris is mostly a Conservative in name only and his support for a rabid liberal like Obama speaks plenty about the state of contemporary conservatism in the UK.
2. Boris says he was impressed by the "Ich bin ein Messiah" speech that Obama made in Berlin. What an impressionable clown he is. Or else a triangulator making a cynical judgement call?
3. That Obamania that has spread across Europe should do more to help McCain than hinder him. So perhaps some more British Conservatives for Obama is the desired result?
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c'mon David, yous lot have had 8yrs of neo-con Bush
We've been crying every day, weeping and a wailing
Us Libs want our turn and we're gonna get it.,
fair's fair
I insist on referring to the Dem candidate as Obamer
because in the USA Cuba is pronounced Cuber ;-)
Actually Bush is not a neo con. He is a conservative who used to be a drifter. He was never a liberal in the American sense of that word.
"What an impressionable clown he is. "
Who? Boris? A clown?!
Boris is an improvement on Livingston, and Livingston's financial improprieties and incompetence are under on-going investigation.
Allan,
He's better than Ken in the sense that a smack in the face is better than an axe in the head. Both will give a headache!!
DV
If it came down to it would you choose Hitler or Stalin?
US politics doesn't exactly embrace the concept of diversity does it?
David,
Only among journos who need to sell papers and airtime or lose their jobs. Real people in Europe don't give a toss. Why should they?
This is a class act, and a genuine right-wing patriot.
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=h9-k0Gc3RTM
David -
What an impressionable clown he is. Or else a triangulator making a cynical judgement call?
I think this is the most likely explanation. I read many of his Spectator editorials and Johnson undoubtedly is a conservative. However, he's also highly ambitious and deadly serious beneath the buffoonish veneer. If it suits his scheme to hide his conservatism, then under the rug it goes. I suspect he's decided that the White House will have its first half white/half Kenyan tenant and is positioning himself accordingly.
I couldn't give a toss about the opinion of 200,000 Germans, or 2 million about an American Candidate. If Obama wants to run for Chancellor, then good for him!
Dawkins
He did draw a big crowd in deutschland. Of course the fact that they had free beer had nothing to do with it.
Phantom,
Your average German would attend the opening of a beer bottle. Ach, Scheisse, now I've gone and said it :0)
Just don't mention zee var!
If Obama comes to NY and they're giving free beer and wurst at the rally, I'll go see the man myself.
Great link Allan.
Never thought I'd say this but Vive Le Pen!
Sarko's smug face was a picture.
You have to hand it to Le Pen, he's always been one of the more likeable Frogs, sensible chap.
He was given cinq minoot, I notice, with the gauleiter stepping in at 4.40. I'm surprised they didn't haul him off sooner. I'm surprised they let him speak at all. I thought you had to hold officially approved opinions to be allowed on your feet in that place.
Le Pen's speech was a tour de force.
Question to DV: if you have watched the video of Jean-Marie le pen demolishing Sarkozy, the EU and all that it stands for in the EU 'parliament', would you be good enough to state what you would disagree with?
Indeed, would anybody who has watched Le Pen's speech state where Le Pen is wrong and why?
Allan,
Just watched it. Agree with every word.
Best quote on Obama, ever.
"People get excited because Barack Obama got 200,000 people in Berlin. Let's not forget that the last time 200,000 people gathered in Berlin it was to listen to the most evil man in the world
...
David Hasselhoff."
Seamus
I'm not sure who is more pathetic - Hasselhoff for his stupid remark, or you for posting it.
If this is the best that Rightworld can do, then Obama must have a chance in November.
Peter, it is a joke. The last person to address a crowd of 200,000 was David Hasselhoff, at the fall of the Berlin Wall.
The quote is actually from Frankie Boyle.
http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/obomber-over-berlin/
The Protestants and Catholics of Belfast “found a way to live together”?
What rubbish!
The IRA gave up because their Soviet and Communist Czechoslovakian suppliers were gone, they lost the support of almost every one of their former supporters in Ireland, their financial support from American, Canadian and Australian Irish-Americans dried up the second the first plane crashed into the World Trade Centre, and their contacts with Libya, Hamas, FARC and other terrorists were effectively disrupted in the first wave of international anti-terrorist actions following 9-11.
What an ignorant, ungrateful moppet this megalomaniac narcissist Obama is. If he’s so happy about the fall of the Berlin Wall, then how come he doesn’t even mention Reagan or Bush Sr.?
Obama’s speech from beginning to end is nauseating in the extreme.
Should we consider these campaign promises:
He’s going to lower the oceans, end hunger in Bangladesh, bring about world peace, end discrimination, free Darfur, bring freedom of expression to Iran and Burma, bring democracy to Zimbabwe, make the world nuclear -free, shelter the refugees in Chad, and “banish the scourge of AIDS in our time”?
Those are rather modest goals for some two-bit, no-name, “community organizer”.
Why not redeem our souls while your at it?
Oh, I see, you’re saving that for 2012…
* * * * *
OBAMA
Tonight I speak to you not as a candidate for president [Good speech: Opens with a blatant lie. Says: "I think you people are idiots."], but as a citizen, a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world. [A citizen is one who owes loyalty to and enjoys the protection of state.]
I know that I don’t look like the Americans who’ve previously spoken in this great city.
…
This city, of all cities, knows the dream of freedom. And you know that the only reason we stand here tonight is because men and women from both of our nations came together to work, and struggle, and sacrifice for that better life. [WW I? WW II?]
…
People of the world [He speaks to the world? Is he God?], look at Berlin. Look at Berlin, where Germans and Americans learned to work together and trust each other less than three years after facing each other on the field of battle. ["Work together and trust each other"? America helped the enemy. Germans accepted food. East Germany's leaders plotted with the USSR to plan WW III. What a moron.]
People of the world, look at Berlin, where a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a world that stands as one [under Reagan]
["A world that stands as one"? Did Cuba and Iran and the USSR and Communist China and North Korea and Iraq and the rest stand "as one" with West Germany and America?]
The terrorists of September 11th plotted in Hamburg and trained in Kandahar and Karachi before killing thousands from all over the globe on American soil.
[But weren't they exonerated in German courts?]
As we speak, cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic, and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya.
…
The genocide in Darfur shames the conscience of us all.
[So, war against Sudan?]
No one nation, no matter how large or powerful, can defeat such challenges alone.
[I guess he's criticizing European anti-Americanism.]
In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more, not less. [Didn't Stalin Hitler say that? Hitler? The Ayatollah? The UN?
The walls between old allies on either side of the Atlantic cannot stand. The walls between the countries with the most and those with the least cannot stand. [No more borders, I guess.] The walls between races and tribes, natives and immigrants [an end to citizenship, I guess], Christians and Muslims and Jews cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down.
Not only have walls come down in Berlin, but they’ve come down in Belfast [Idiot! Belfast is divided today by numerous Peace Walls!], where Protestant and Catholic found a way to live together; in the Balkans, where our Atlantic alliance ended wars and brought savage war criminals to justice.
This is the moment when we must defeat terror and dry up the well of extremism that supports it.
This is the moment when we must renew the goal of a world without nuclear weapons.
This is the moment when every nation in Europe must have the chance to choose its own tomorrow free from the shadows of yesterday. [So, no more history, I guess.]
This is the moment when we must come together to save this planet. Let us resolve that we will not leave our children to a world where the oceans rise, and famine spreads, and terrible storms devastate our lands.
Let us resolve that all nations, including my own, will act with the same seriousness of purpose as has your nation and reduce the carbon we send into our atmosphere.
We must remember that the Cold War born in this city was not a battle for land or treasure. Sixty years ago, the planes that flew over Berlin did not drop bombs; instead, they delivered food, and coal, and candy to grateful children.
[What a pile of a-historical crap! The Berlin Air-Lift was a response to Communist military aggression. It was carried out by NATO military forces. It was a Western response to a Soviet military challenge. The Communists dared the West to do something. The West dared the Soviets to shoot down airplanes carrying candy over Soviet-occupied Germany. Obama is an absolute moron.]
Will we lift the child in Bangladesh from poverty, and shelter the refugee in Chad, and banish the scourge of AIDS in our time?
Will we stand for the human rights of the dissident in Burma [how?], the blogger in Iran [how?], or the voter in Zimbabwe [how?]? Will we give meaning to the words “never again” in Darfur [how?]?
Will we acknowledge — will we acknowledge that there is no more powerful example than the one each of our nations projects to the world? Will we reject torture and stand for the rule of law?
[I guess that's his endorsement of McCain.]
Will we — will we — will we welcome immigrants from different lands [Oh, there are no immigrants in America or Germany?], and shun discrimination against those who don’t look like us or worship like we do, and keep the promise of equality and opportunity for all of our people? [Who are "our people"? Who's he talking to?]
People of Berlin, people of the world [Again with the God-talk!], this is our moment. This is our time. [Is it America's time? I guess not.]
I know my country has not perfected itself. ["Perfected"?!] At times, we’ve struggled to keep the promise of liberty and equality for all of our people. We’ve made our share of mistakes, and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. [THIS DISGUSTING BASTARD IS APOLOGIZING TO GERMANS FOR AMERICAN HISTORY!]
But I also know how much I love America. [Even if my wife doesn't.] I know that for more than two centuries, we have strived [striven], at great cost and great sacrifice, to form a more perfect union, to seek, with other nations, a more hopeful world.
Our allegiance has never been to any particular tribe or kingdom; indeed, every language is spoken in our country; every culture has left its imprint on ours; every point of view is expressed in our public squares. [Especially mine.]
People of Berlin and people of the world, the scale of our challenge is great. The road ahead will be long.
But I come before you to say that we are heirs to a struggle for freedom. We are a people ["We are a people"? Who? What people?] of improbable hope. With an eye towards the future, with resolve in our heart, let us remember this history [Remember this history? Didn't he just finish saying, "Europe must have the chance to choose its own tomorrow free from the shadows of yesterday"], and answer our destiny, and remake the world once again.
Thank you, Berlin. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you.
[Anyone remember the outrage from CNN, the Democrats, the NYT when George Bush said "God Bless You"?]
”The IRA gave up because their Soviet and Communist Czechoslovakian suppliers were gone, they lost the support of almost every one of their former supporters in Ireland, their financial support from American, Canadian and Australian Irish-Americans dried up the second the first plane crashed into the World Trade Centre, and their contacts with Libya, Hamas, FARC and other terrorists were effectively disrupted in the first wave of international anti-terrorist actions following 9-11.”
If the IRA gave up, why do they have as much say in the running of Northern Ireland as the DUP do? Why are 4 former IRA members elected to Westminster? Why are 2 former IRA members elected to the Dáil? Why are many former IRA members elected to Stormont and various councils throughout Ireland? Why are former IRA members Government members if the IRA gave up and lost?
Secondly, the IRA began it’s most recent ceasefire in July 1997, four years before September 11th 2001. So they had no need for financial support from American, Canadian and Australia. And if the support for the Republican movement has dried up, why are American donations to Sinn Féin the highest in recorded history?
”What an ignorant, ungrateful moppet this megalomaniac narcissist Obama is. If he’s so happy about the fall of the Berlin Wall, then how come he doesn’t even mention Reagan or Bush Sr.?”
The fall of the Soviet Union was in part to do with Ronald Reagan, but not all that much to do with him. Credit where credit is due, so Reagan deserves a small amount of credit but for most part the Soviet Union tore itself apart. The real heroes when it came to the destruction of the Eastern Bloc and the Soviet Union are men like Lech Wałęsa, and His Holiness Pope John Paul who helped the Polish people stand up and be counted.
"If the IRA gave up, why do they have as much say in the running of Northern Ireland as the DUP do?"
At last! A supporter of Sinn Fein finally admits that they and the IRA are one and the same.
Charles - and we really couldn't give a toss who is your next President.