Friday
18Apr2008
Charlene Downes - Accused Cleared.
Friday, April 18, 2008 at 01:00AM In case anybody's been wondering about the strange case of Charlene Downes, which I blogged about previously, it turns out that the case is now over. In the courts, at least. Drake's Drum commented at the Home of the Green Arrow, flagging a local newspaper article reporting on this. According to the Blackpool Citizen, "Mohammed Reveshi and another man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, were due to face a retrial after a jury failed to reach a verdict in the original case last August. But yesterday charges against both men were dropped at Preston Crown Court. And the barrister defending Mr Reveshi, John Bromley-Davenport QC, slammed the police investigation in court, accusing them of manipulation and lying on oath."
The BBC has a very small article on this, but it does at least include a picture of the now cleared Mr Reveshi. If you look to your left, you will see the face of the man cleared of involvement in the disappearance, murder and body disposal of a 14-year-old schoolgirl. Cleared, that is, due to 'lack of evidence', which I find surprising as the Blackpool Citizen reports that
"More than 200 police officers have been involved in the inquiry since it was launched in November 2003, and Detective Sergeant Jan Beasant spent 2,400 hours over two years transcribing 52 tapes, that police said proved the guilt of both men."
Apparently the force has been 'slammed' for incompetence. So that's alright, then.
Related links:
Tottenham Lad - Remembering Charlene Downes
Majority Rights - A Murder Too Far For the MSM
Majority Rights - Justice For Charlene Downes? Not Yet
UK Commentators - Charlene Downes Update
Nationalist News - Charlene Downes - Erasing the Truth
Nationalist News - Trial Update April '07 (includes excellent library of related links)
A final thought. Charlene Downes will not be forgotten, nor will Kriss Donald, nor any of the other myriad victims of the 'multicultural experiment'. I'm not the only one out here on 'The Extreme Right'. There are others like me, and they're drawing plans to fix things. One day there will once again be justice and balance in England, and on that day all debts will be settled in full.
The BBC has a very small article on this, but it does at least include a picture of the now cleared Mr Reveshi. If you look to your left, you will see the face of the man cleared of involvement in the disappearance, murder and body disposal of a 14-year-old schoolgirl. Cleared, that is, due to 'lack of evidence', which I find surprising as the Blackpool Citizen reports that"More than 200 police officers have been involved in the inquiry since it was launched in November 2003, and Detective Sergeant Jan Beasant spent 2,400 hours over two years transcribing 52 tapes, that police said proved the guilt of both men."
Apparently the force has been 'slammed' for incompetence. So that's alright, then.
Related links:
Tottenham Lad - Remembering Charlene Downes
Majority Rights - A Murder Too Far For the MSM
Majority Rights - Justice For Charlene Downes? Not Yet
UK Commentators - Charlene Downes Update
Nationalist News - Charlene Downes - Erasing the Truth
Nationalist News - Trial Update April '07 (includes excellent library of related links)
A final thought. Charlene Downes will not be forgotten, nor will Kriss Donald, nor any of the other myriad victims of the 'multicultural experiment'. I'm not the only one out here on 'The Extreme Right'. There are others like me, and they're drawing plans to fix things. One day there will once again be justice and balance in England, and on that day all debts will be settled in full.
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"on that day all debts will be settled in full".
A truism if ever there was.
>>There are others like me, and they're drawing plans to fix things.<<
Well, don't leave us in suspense, tell us what the plans are. Otherwise we'll assume you're just bluffing.
The death of this child and any miscarriage of justice that may have ensued is tragic. But so would be allowing such an incident to serve as an opportunity for those for whom this girl's death is merely an excuse to stir up racial or ethnic hatreds.
Mahons,
"But so would be allowing such an incident to serve as an opportunity for those for whom this girl's death is merely an excuse to stir up racial or ethnic hatreds."
People like Mr Smith who links to this (the Myriad Victims link):
Some of the many hundreds of British victims of coloured immigration...A gang of young nigger savages stabbed and beat Martin to death ...Some liberal morons say London is "rich in diversity", everyone else says it is increasingly dangerous due to negroid savages being allowed to live here...These negroid aavages really lived up to their reputation, witnesses described them making "animalistic noises" during the frenzied attack...Negroid savage Ikechukwu Tennyson Obih...Negro savage Karl Taylor...
A frustratingly sad and dissapointing case not helped by Mr Smiths sinister and ugly article.
Thanks Frank, I assumed the links could involve that type of sentiment.
Sure, not all ethnic immigrants in the UK are criminals, in fact most aren't.
(and most Americans voted for GWB in 2004 - I mention this just to clarify the word "most").
But take one look at the ethnic make-up of the UK prison population as compared to that of the population at large, and one has to conclude that either there is a real problem, or else that every police officer, magistrate, judge and barrister in the land is a racist white-supremacist with an agenda for locking up non-whites, regardless of guilt/innocence. Indeed, some of them possibly are, but most aren't.
Here are some crime figures from the US.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus05.pdf
US Dept of Justice – see table 42, 36,000 white women raped by black men in that year. Note that 0-10 black women were raped by white men.
How can this be explained?
Allan - how many of the rapists were women?
Frank,
In case you want to look further at these statistics (and I am not suggesting you waste any more time on this), there is this analysis:
There is also a discussion of Auster's original blog story at Under Cover Black Man.Anyway, have a nice weekend. :-)
Radical Ron has a huge database of women who've raped children all across America. Apparently it's more common than you would think.
Daphne, yes it's hardly unheard of especially if you include statutory rape - I was just wondering what point Allan was trying to make. Usually it is something to do with race and/or immigration, so perhaps he wants to encourage more black women to immigrate.
Frank and Daphne,
If you look at the survey Allan@Aberdeen is talking about (PDF), there is no information relating to gender of the victims or the offenders. He just made that "white women raped by black men" part up (and he probably got the link from this lovely post).
Well spotted, Alan.
Also great pics you linked to over at that Texas polygamist thing!!
(Daphne, at least your Pentacost crowd never made you wear dresses like THAT! - i hope)
Noel,
They made Daphne where a gunny sack and squawk like a chicken, didn't she tell ya?
Y'all are both wrong - these particular folks had a hard time keeping their clothes on when the spirit struck. Gibbering naked snake handlers - ewwww.
Frank, maybe he's encouraging more black women to commit rape?
Gibbering naked snake handlers
Now you've gone and put me off my supper (and I hear it tastes like chicken). Ewwwwwwww!
Pass the tequila, as we say in Texas.
Definitely time for a beverage Alan.
I put up the link to US rape figures to demonstrate that there is a racial link to criminal tendency. Of most interest is the figure that no black woman was raped by a white man - I'm assuming heterosexual rape taking due note of the African 'refugee' who has been raping white men in Glasgow
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7348982.stm
That figure can reasonably be taken as zero simply because if there had been one black woman raped by a white man, she would be in all the newspapers and leftist US talk-shows as the great symbol of black 'victimhood'.
ACTUALLY there is one case of a black woman who was raped by a white man. In the TV series, '24', the daughter of President David Palmer (black, honourable, statesman-like etc - I'm sure y'all get the drift) was raped by a white who was subsequently killed by her brother. (revenge killing is OK sometimes in left-world). So, if what the left wants doesn't exist in the real world, Hollywood will invent it.
Alan FM's reasoning (Friday, April 18, 2008 at 10:55PM) appears to be that simply pointing out that blacks are greatly more inclined to commit crime than whites, and especially against whites, is in itself racist and a thought-crime. That is how PC works.
Allan,
"I put up the link to US rape figures to demonstrate that there is a racial link to criminal tendency."
You failed.
"Of most interest is the figure that no black woman was raped by a white man"
As Alan explained, there is no such figure.
"Alan FM's reasoning (Friday, April 18, 2008 at 10:55PM) appears to be"
No it doesn't appear to be. We can all read what he said (apart from you).
It is of course understandable that you ignore what he said and make up something else that is easier for you to attack.
Looking at the statistics from the US Department of Justice on crime in the US for 2005, Table 2 shows that 66,670 women were actually raped and not 'merely' subject to sexual assault or attempted rape. From Table 42, it is read from the figures that no black woman was raped by a white man, much as the leftist MSM and Hollywood would have us all believe the opposite (Duke University lacrosse players, NY police and Tawana Brawley, President David Palmer's daughter in '24' etc....). All black women who were raped were raped by black men. This is what I read from the report although Frank is unconvinced.
Of course, it may be concluded that white men find black women so unattractive that they (white men) wouldn't even want to rape them - but that's racist!
From this and other factual evidence (racial identities of prisoners in the US), I conclude that blacks are indeed more likely to commit crime than other racial groups. From figures in the UK, I conclude that muslims are more likely to commit crime than any other cultural group.
From Alan FM's link:
"According to The Color of Crime, the rate of black-on-white rape/sexual assault is seven times higher than the rate of "white"-on-black rape/sexual assault ("white" in quotation marks indicates white and Hispanic). And that's after correcting the differential down from a much higher number, as I will explain when I write on this at more length. The Color of Crime further estimates that if Hispanic perpetrators were removed from the equation, the ratio of black-on-white rape/sexual assault to white-on-black rape/sexual assault would be about ten."
My last statement stands, backed up by Alan FM's info: thanks Alan!!
It could be argued that the statistics demonstrate that the authorities pay more attention to crimes against white women , particularly when commited by black men, than black women, especially when their assailants are white men.
Really Colm! Are you going to argue such given the furore over the (proven false) rape claims against the Duke University lacrosse players and the lies against NY police by Tawana Brawley? Go on then Colm: argue it.
No I am not going to argue it,becasue personally I don't actually believe that . I am just making the point that statistics do not always reflect what they appear to indicate on the surface.
Colm, I agree with your point on statistics.
Allan posted:
From this and other factual evidence (racial identities of prisoners in the US), I conclude that blacks are indeed more likely to commit crime than other racial groups. From figures in the UK, I conclude that muslims are more likely to commit crime than any other cultural group.
Maybe, but you ignore the poverty effect. Do rich blacks commit more crime than rich whites? Poor people commit more crimes than rich people and the fact is that blacks and muslims are on average poorer than whites. Which is not to excuse crime in any way.
There is equality of opportunity in the west but the left assume that this must also mean equality of outcome. This is not possible because there is no equality in fields of human activity (sport, intellectual etc.) of cultures and races. For example, to be a muslim is to be immediately at a disdavantage in terms of personal betterment as comapred with a hindu because islam is a retrograde doctrine.
Now compare the accomplishments of Nigerians and Japanese in athletics and engineering.
I am not sure that a survey of this sort should be the basis for one's view of race relations. Most victims of violent crime are victims who know or even reside with the assailant. If Allan were to take his "logic" further, it wouldn't be black people who he can't abide, but men, since men commit the overwhelming number of rapes and assaults.
Not quite Mahons. Most crime is committed by young men 15 - 35 and there's also a link to IQ. Now it is known that blacks males have generally higher testosterone levels than whites of similar age and statistically significantly lower IQs. Hence the contrasting criminality rates in countries where both races reside.