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05Sep2008

FRIENDS OVERSEAS...?

It would be wrong to suggest that Obama is not without support. In Iran, for example.

" Sen. John McCain is "absent-minded" and "terrible" and his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, doesn't have any appropriate experience. Sen. Obama by contrast, is "highly educated" and "eloquent"  (Erm, well, you know, erm. I'm not so sure about that but anyway...) and would serve the world much better and improve America's overall situation. And Sen. Joe Biden is a "very respectable" man with a "good reputation." All this according to an interview broadcast this week on Iranian state-run media. "[McCain] doesn't know anything, poor thing. He is terrible. Let me tell you, he's awful," stated Mohammad-Ali Fardanesh, a political science professor at Shahid Behshti University, which is an Iranian state-funded school.

I'm guessing that Iranian TV does not broadcast what the Mullans disaprove of so I figure that the Mullahs do not want to see McCain and Palin in power but for some odd reason they look forward to Obama and Biden getting into the White House. Wonder what it could be? Maybe they too intend to bring about some change.....???

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scare-mongering at its worst.
David you do this best, and its a sin, a bad one m8

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 02:39PM | Unregistered CommenterPercy

Smoke and mirrors. Really they want the Taliban Light version in power in the US. I look forward to Palin and the little guy sharing notes on how they view women's fundamental rights.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 02:43PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe

David: If you wanted to be in the DUP and Gerry Adams came out and endorsed you for the postion, might you think it was his intent to do so to insure you would not?

It gets to be like Wallace Shaw's great hidden poison scene in The Princess Bride - If you know that I know that you know etc.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 02:49PM | Unregistered Commentermahons

They smell weakness in the Obama/Biden ticket, as did Hamas.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 02:57PM | Registered CommenterPatty

They smell more than weakness, they smell appeasement.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:03PM | Unregistered CommenterDavid Vance

Agree. I am now 100% for McCain/Palin, as well. They will be a great team. Not only internationally, but I believe that they might actually shake up the entrenched Washington establishment if given a chance.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:06PM | Registered CommenterPatty

Isn't it interesting how closely the BBC and the Islamofacist broadcasters follow the same line?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:08PM | Unregistered Commenternrg

Patty - you are 100% (that means fully by the way) behind two politicians you have previously panned with a plethora passionate prose in your pugnacious posts?

(I am 85% for alliteration).

Any chance of some reservations? Even Sinatra had a few regrets.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:24PM | Unregistered Commentermahons

Anyone up for a cocktail in Dublin Saturday or perhaps Sunday night?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:29PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Mahons: "you are 100% (that means fully by the way) behind two politicians you have previously panned with a plethora passionate prose in your pugnacious posts?"

Unlike you, I don't sit forever on the proverbial fence, obeserving situations, often siding with conventional wisdom because I lack the backbone to analize and commit!!

Well, that's my story at least, and I'm sticking to it. :)

Seriously, I thought Palin was risky and inexperienced. She is risky, but the risk is paying off. She has energized the base (including me) and is the authentic "blue collar Republican" whereas Lunchpail Joe Biden is only a poser. (This matters for the votes that they can attract.)

Regarding her experience, she is vastly more experienced than Obama. So, my chief concern - that her inexperience would annul the argument that Obama is inexperienced - does not matter.

Rather than question what would happen were McCain to die, and Palin were President, we should be asking what would happen if Biden were to die, and Obama were without a VP!

Conclusion: I have evaluated the new information as I have received it and I have changed my opinions accordingly.

I will hit the streets and work for the Mccain/Palin ticket gladly.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:35PM | Registered CommenterPatty

Patty,

Good for you. We are all entitled to change our views. I have been against McCain but since the Palin pick and having heard him speak - and then contrasting that with Obamessiah, the gulf is massive and so I find myself also wishing him into the White House. I

Mahons,

The Frank Sinatra line is a corker!!

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:40PM | Registered CommenterDavid Vance

Palin remains the wild card in the entire campaign.

Many Dems I speak to continue to underestimate her big time. They think that she is just a spunky chick who read a feisty speech.

Thats insane. She ain't Henry Kissinger on foreign policy, but she is one seriously smart woman who has accomplished important things.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:41PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

>>I will hit the streets and work ...<<

So did Sugar Plum Fairy, and that didn't do much good either (well, if mahons can come up with obscure lyrics references, and it is Friday..). BTW, don't let Colm see that "backbone" line.

Phantom, pity re. Dublin, you're a week too early. You could have given me my crate of beer in advance and all.

By the way, what important things has Palin accomplished?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:55PM | Unregistered CommenterNOEL CUNNINGHAM

David,
I think you'll find that most countries around the world would make the same comments on the candidates you've quoted.
They're sensible intelligent observations.
.
All you've done is create a straw-man.arguement

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:56PM | Unregistered CommenterPercy

Overthrew a corrupt (Republican ) political machine at the top of Alaska politics, cut expenses, passed new ethics laws, renegotiated contracts with the oil companies in the state's favor, and got final OK for the building of an important pipeline

Not bad for two years.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 03:59PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Patty - good luck, but after what you did for Romney you might help McCain/Palin but taking to the streets for Obama/Biden.


David - One can certainly change their mind. If only the present occupant of the White House had the capacity. But you have to admit (in that secret safe place) that it is funny watching the complete turn around among some of our friends here.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 04:00PM | Unregistered Commentermahons

100% is the only way to support any canmpaign once you have made up your mind. Plenty of time for reflection after the election.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 04:00PM | Unregistered CommenterHenry94

Henry - seriously? One cannot hold one's nose and pull the lever with the other hand?

No wrong in committing to a particular candidate, even with zealous advocacy, but wild abandon of all thought and blind following? No thanks, that is cultism.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 04:06PM | Unregistered Commentermahons

Noel,

If she's looking for soul-food and a place to eat I'd venture Alaska might not be the best place...

Still, who knows what other than fame might be the spur to political ambition...

A chance to see the world and experience its cuisiine beyond Anchorage?

P.s. 'My Way' - whether by Francis Albert or Sid Vicious - is hardly an obscure lyric....

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 04:18PM | Unregistered CommenterAlexander Bowman

Mahons

The object of the exercise is to win the election. I'm not talking about just voting. I mean getting involved. You have to leave your doubts and your ego at the door and give your all.

It's like playing football. You may have your doubts about the manager but when the whistle goes it's about winning.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 05:27PM | Unregistered CommenterHenry94

I don't do that. You wind up being a talking points guy who can't see the other side.

I really faced this issue in 2000 when Bush and McCain battled it out for the GOP nomination. I strongly felt that McCain was the better man. When Bush got the nomination, I voted for him, but I surely didn't run around singing his praises. I thought he was a politically connected dummy who was better than the other guy and the other party. I just couldn't fake enthusiasm for that. I had doubts that would not go away.

This year I may do more, as the guy who should have been elected in 2000 -- and America -- gets a second chance to do it right.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 05:32PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

So we have the ayatollas supporting Obama.

I remember a similar smear against Kerry when it was alleged that he was being backed by Bin Laden.

This is one of the oldest smear tactics in the book, and one the GOP never misses.

And by the way guys, it's McCain, not Palin who is running for POTUS. And he gave his usual lack-lustre speech last night. Here is one theory why it was so poor:

"I think there's a connection between the mansion-cum-middle school picture and the lousy speech prepared for McCain. It has to do with the stress that Palin's nomination puts on the GOP ticket, on the resources she necessarily diverts from McCain. Whatever you think of the Palin speech, whether it was cynical or alienating to anyone outside the base, it was solidly written. I'd even say well written. McCain's wasn't. It was decidedly second rate, not just badly delivered but clumsily written (except for the part about his POW experience, which I assume he has on file: that worked). How did that happen? Everyone knows McCain is a bad public speaker, so one would assume his campaign would it least give him a rock solid text to work from. But I suspect the campaign only has so many first-rate people on hand, and all of those people in the McCain campaign were tasked with taking care of Palin, leaving the top of the ticket to the second-stringers."

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 05:45PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter

Peter

Believe this or not, I was listening to an interview a this past April with a senior Hamas official in Gaza ( by John Batchelor ), where the guy endorsed Obama

I didn't just read this...I heard it on live radio.

Is it a smear to report this?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 05:49PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Mahons: To quote McCain - "nothing is inevitable."

Unlike you, I ask more of myself than safely sniping from the sidelines.

Pick a candidate, man, and then support him/her. Otherwise, quit your complaining, waiting for others to fix what you don't like.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 05:59PM | Registered CommenterPatty

>>Believe this or not, I was listening to an interview a this past April with a senior Hamas official in Gaza ( by John Batchelor ), where the guy endorsed Obama<<

Fact is, the really bad guys, the ones who planned Sept 11, no doubt hoped Bush would be elected back in 2000.
They believed that with someone like him in office they only had to carry out a terrorist attack and he would do something really stupid.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:04PM | Unregistered CommenterNOEL CUNNINGHAM

Phantom

No (assuming the report is true), but it's a smear to allege on this basis that Obama supports Hamas.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:05PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter

Peter

Batchelor is 100% credible.

No one said that Obama supports the schoolbus bombers, but its a pretty awful sign when people like that think well of you.


Noel

Lets see how this is looked at 20 or 30 years from now. It may be vastly more nuanced than the no-nothing Euro/Michael Moore perspectives of today.

Bush really is pretty stupid, but many good things have happened in Iraq, and you and most tend to ignore them or completely gloss over them.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:07PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Patty - unlike you, I have the burden of a thought process.

A week ago according to you Palin was a terrible pick. A few months ago according to you McCain was a terrible pick. Now according to you they are the best thing since white bread. You make John Kerry look like the Rock of Gibraltor.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:13PM | Unregistered Commentermahons

Phantom

You can't help who supports you, especially overseas.

No doubt the KKK and their fellow-travellers will vote McCain to try to keep a black man out of the white house. Is that "a pretty awful sign" for him?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:14PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter

Mahons

LOL!

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:14PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter

I'm giving you facts and you're giving me speculation.

Besides the KKK almost does not exist anymore, while Hamas is all too real.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:18PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

"No doubt the KKK and their fellow-travellers will vote McCain to try to keep a black man out of the white house. "

David Duke is a big Obama supporter.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:20PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss

Phantom - Peter makes a fair point. Citing Bin Laden or his ilk's professed preference in our national election is disingenuous. Of course they'll cite the opposition party, but make no mistake - they really couldn't care less - they want us all dead or cowering.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:24PM | Unregistered Commentermahons

The question does arise - why do they support him? Unless we speculate that they are doing so for no reason of any kind.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:28PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Phantom - could it be they know that they are pariahs here and that their professed support for a candidate actually helps the opposition?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:32PM | Unregistered Commentermahons

Nah

They think that Obama will be less favorable to Israel. Which can be a valid position for someone to take, but you must be wary when the opinion comes from a bunch of genocidal killers.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:35PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

So they think their endorsement of him will actually help him get elected?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:39PM | Unregistered Commentermahons

It wasn't that kind of endorsement

Batchelor asked them what they thought of the major candidates still in the running in the US.

The only one they spoke about was Obama, with some enthusiasm. If he had not asked the question, they may have said nothing.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:44PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Any candidate which reins in the ridiculous support the USA bestows upon Israel can only be good, but judging by Obama's grovelling speech to the arch-zionists in AIPAC I doubt if hes the man.....time will tell hopefully !

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 06:56PM | Unregistered CommenterRS

Phantom,

"its a pretty awful sign when people like that think well of you."

That's a crazy argument. I hear that there are people like that who think well of eating. Should we stop eating?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 07:01PM | Registered CommenterFrank O'Dwyer

So Mahons, do you have any preference yet or are you waiting for the debates (or something else - and don't say election day)?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 07:05PM | Registered CommenterFrank O'Dwyer

Oprah is 100% behind Obama and has <h ref"http://www.drudgereport.com/">banned Gov. Palin from her show. That was a mistake. It will confirm the media bias perception.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 07:07PM | Unregistered CommenterHenry94

Frank

yes!

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 07:08PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Sorry, I'll read that again.

Oprah is 100% behind Obama and has banned Gov. Palin from her show. That was a mistake. It will confirm the media bias perception.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 07:09PM | Unregistered CommenterHenry94

Mohammad-Ali Fardanesh can go blow it out his pie hole. I couldn't give a rat's what he thinks about Obama, McCain or the Mahdi's due date.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 07:10PM | Unregistered CommenterDaphne

Henry - Oprah's a black liberal super-rich elitist, what else would you expect?

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 07:11PM | Unregistered CommenterDaphne

Mahons: I supported Romney for Pres., but he lost! Too bad.

I support the Republican ticket 100% - and yet I disagree strongly with McCain on several issues!

I did not like the risk aspect of the Palin pick. Now, I do! I offer my opinion on an OPINION blog! Quelle surprise! And I change my opinions as I gain new information! How revolutionary!

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 07:11PM | Registered CommenterPatty

Mahons: Have you decided who you will vote for yet? Or are you "undecided" and will pick your candidate the night of, depending on who you think will win, so that you can say - "I told you so!"

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 07:13PM | Registered CommenterPatty

Frank: I think I'll wait for the debates before my final decision. I have concerns about both: McCain's poor grasp of the economy and possible selections for the Supreme Court and Obama's lack of experience and naive ways. I am very worried that we have to deal with real dangers in the world that may at times make us unpopular and that Obama might use Bush's disaster's as an excuse do nothing.

Patty: I am still hoping that the nation turns to me personally for salvation, and that a grass roots movement representing the will of the people is able to secure sufficient petition signatures to draft me as a Presidential candidate. My first act as President, after returning with Vice President Palin from our fact finding mission to Hawaii, will be to make Square Dancing a federal crime.

So be nice or I won't pardon you.

In the event that doesn't work out, I intend to vote for McCain or Obama (Nader and Barr belong in rubber rooms). You'll know sufficiently in advance of the election if you stay tuned.

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 08:08PM | Unregistered Commentermahons

Patty, Mahons is like obama. Given two choices, the best he can do is vote "present"! ;)

Friday, September 5, 2008 at 08:12PM | Unregistered CommenterCharles in Texas

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