...LIKE A HORSE AND CARRIAGE!
Monday, July 6, 2009 at 08:24AM
It's always a tough deciding which of the NuLabour Commissars to loath the most, but Harriet Harman is right up there. I see that she has grabbed herself some precious headlines by dismissing Conservativesupport for marriage as 'hypocritical moralising'.
Miss Harman ended a week of Labour and Tory rowing over gay rights and family life by attempting to slap down Conservative plans for tax breaks to encourage marriage. 'Families won't want to be lectured by anybody about how to lead their lives,' she declared.
Right and wrong, Ms Harperson. We sure as hell to not want hypocritical scum like you lecturing us on ANY aspect of our lives. However we are also clear that marriage (One man, one woman) is also the best defence against the State so the more it is buttressed and rewarded the better. If that means offering tax breaks for married couples then GREAT. After all, this lousy rotten administration has lavished £££millions on every other minority group it can find.
Let's be clear. The political left supports MARRIAGE when it is between homosexuals or lesbians and does so for the simple reason this undermines the special and unique union between man and woman that lies at the heart of our once-Christian country. They know what they are doing. The traditional family stands as an impediment to the growth of the State and so anything that reduces it, which weakens it, which undermines it is a positive boon to the likes of Harman.
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Reader Comments (9)
>>for the simple reason this undermines the special and unique union between man and woman <<
I'd like to see someone try to explain how giving gays a right to marry undermines the special and unique union between you and your wife, David.
Or the equally special and unique one between me and my wife for that matter.
>>The traditional family stands as an impediment to the growth of the State<<
What? I'd aways thought that the traditional family was a pillar of the state, which was - we were told - why all those radicals were so opposed to it in byegone days.
And if you think the trad. family is inimicable to the state, how come you're now looking to the state for more cash to support it?
"The political left supports MARRIAGE when it is between homosexuals or lesbians and does so for the simple reason..."
Or maybe it supports it because it believes in equality.
Well put-together comments David....
While Noe's naive comment....>>I'd always thought that the traditional family was a pillar of the state<<, was never the case. It is the pillar of Society, not the State, because the State is NOT your friend. Never was. Never will be.
>>It is the pillar of Society, not the State,<<
Darn, and there was me thinking you righters thought there was no such thing as Society, and were such strong believers in the State that you thought everyone should even be ready to kill and be killed for it once it called on you to do so.
Noel, David, why are you using the term 'marriage' to describe a form of legally recognised union between two members of the same sex? It is not the same as that between a male and a female, which is marriage. Use some other term, but it isn't marriage. Noel may say that they're 'equal' (although I disagree) but they certainly aren't the same.
Noel Cunningham -
You're all over the place. No-one's looking to the State for cash, what is required is for the State to confiscate less of our cash in the first place.
Of course there is such a thing as society. It's civil society. The problem is that collectivists keep on equating and identifying society with State.
Marriage between a man and a woman is the foundation of a civil society. It is because this institution has been devalued that we are in such a state. And to Azir, what right-minded person could possibly equate homosexual coupling with marriage? Marriage by its definition is to take a husband or a wife. Homosexuality can never be that.
"and there was me thinking you righters thought there was no such thing as Society"
And there was me thinking that only the really hard of thinking thought that Thatcher made the quote in that context in the first place, and that all Rightwingers are slavish followers of the Iron Lady's every word. Shame you fall into that category, I thought you were brighter than that.
" Marriage by its definition is to take a husband or a wife. Homosexuality can never be that."
yes it can. You change the definition. It is a construct so just change the terms.
Not that long ago people prohibited the marriage between people of different races. That was changed.
Simple.