OBAMA TO WIN BY A LANDSLIDE?
Monday, September 29, 2008 at 02:19PM You know, perhaps it might be a good idea if Barack Obama's senior aides are right. They believe he is on course for a landslide election victory over John McCain and will comfortably exceed most current predictions in the race for the White House.
So perhaps that is what is needed - four years of sustained ritual humiliation for the United States. Four years of seeing the war on terror put on ice and our wins frittered away, our sacrifice jettisoned. Four year for Al Queda to target better. Four years of resurgent socialism. Four years of the sort of economic incompetence that led to the creation of sub-prime care of Bubba Clinton. Four years of international agreements that will bind the US in chains for decades to come. Four years of restoring relationships with those who seek to destroy the US. Four years of tax increases. Four years of the State growing bigger. Four years of a Congress that will be even worse than that currently in power.
At the end of that point, perhaps the US people will realise that snakeoil salesmen are about as trustworthy now as they were when they first trotted into town.
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McCain has not campaigned at all well since the convention so this is plausible. I don't think Obama can win a Reagan, Nixon or LBJ stlye landslide but he could certainly win comfortably. The worst thing is that there will be Democrat majorities in both houses of congress too, so he won't even be checked by that.
I'm going to predict Obama to beat McCain by 338-200 in the electoral college, and about 7% in the popular vote.
I have heard this expressed by many disillusioned and disheartened Conservatives. In fact, I briefly thought this myself when I saw this headline. But, I don't think it's a good idea.
In my experience, accepting defeat in the hopes that some better justice will appear just doesn't work. You have to fight for what is right. Even if you're losing (or think you are losing)
On the plus side of this article is the fact that John McCain seems to operate best when the odds are against him, and the sky is dark and hopeless. He needs a challenge like that.
I would worry more if it looked like a landslide win for him because I don't think he does well as the runaway favorite. He is the proud Maverick, afterall.
As in 1992, this wouldn't be a bad one to lose. Bush sent government spending through the roof, and Congress has just blow it sky high.
The coffers are bare, so at least Obama would have less freedom than otherwise to lay waste with his commie schemes.
The downside is that he'll poison civil culture and discourse with his cultural Marxism, but then it's not as if Americans haven't been subject to that for 40 years.
In hindsight, winning the 1992 election was disastrous for the Tories. If Kinnock had won instead, Labour would have been been in office until discredited and humiliated in 1997, when the Tories would have been back in. We'd have been spared Blair, Brown and New Labour. Tory government since 1997 would have been tough, but only occasionally disastrous instead of wholly catastrophic, as New Labour has been.
So the Republicans ought to let the Dums have it for four years instead of hanging in there now to be trounced after four years of McCain.
Plus, I'm sick to death, sick and tired and weary of Leftist bleating. I'm sick to death of the perpetual whinge. Even when the Great Wall Street Bail Out is proven to be their fault they can't shut up.
Give these children the box of matches they so desperately want and let'em burn themselves.
George McGovern believed the same thing that"new" voters were going to give him a landslide victory
Right now I would say they are counting sheep that they don't really have
Even when the Great Wall Street Bail Out is proven to be their fault they can't shut up.
LOL!
Whose party has been in the White House since 2000?
Which party controlled both Senate and House from 200 - 2006?
But despite this, somehow the current crisis is all down to the other side.
What pathetic special pleading!
Anyway Pete
I still think McCain will win and the GOP will have to clean up its own mess. A couple more wars will add significantly to the deficit and the dollar will fall off a cliff.
no peter it's called understanding facts not swallowing rhetoric
we know facts are not your strong point
Peter/Patty,
I believe that the Obama folks are massively overstating the case for the Messiah and that things may turn out a lot more surprising than the pundits think. But McCain has a major problem - a Media determined to get Obama into the White House at all costs. In a way I sympathise with what Pete Moore says but you know giving kids the matches can mean that the house DOES burn down, and we all die.
We need more Sarah Palin in my view and McCain needs to become more dominant in the next debate.
"We need more Sarah Palin in my view"
David,
Are you serious? Bring it on - maybe then Obama WILL win a landslide!
What about four years of trying to rebuild bridges with the rest of the world, four years of peace and no illegal interventions into other sovereign states, four years of spending tax dollars on things that benefit all Americans and not just Bush's friends in the oil companies or Cheney's pals in the defense business.
America lost it's standing and respect on the world stage and while I personally do not like Obama, he has a better chance of regaining America's position that any continuation of Bush.
a Media determined to get Obama into the White House at all costs.
But this also applied in 2004 and Kerry was beaten comfortably. I still think Obama's level of support on the day will be significantly less than the polls are giving him now, and the difference will be enough to ensure a GOP win.
I see Europe, Japan, Canada and Australia are rushing to the aid of the US with liquidity funds...good to know you have friends. Hope US don't spend as much time as we did, paying off the interest for money and goods loaned in WW2 - think we finished this year was it.
>>I still think Obama's level of support on the day will be significantly less than the polls are giving him now,<<
Oh come on, Peter, you must admit you have constantly overrated McCain's support. At the time of Palin-mania (my, remember that!) you said that McCain would soon secure a 6 point lead and continue to expand that lead until election day!
Do you not get tired being wrong ? :)
Noel
I will happily admit I was wrong on 5 November, if necessary!
The economic mess should be hurting the Republicans even more than it appears to be doing, especially given McCain's cynical grandstanding last week.
The economic mess is hurting the Republicans but not by large numbers. I think this may be because US politics is so polarised, that even with economic catasrophe that is the Bush/Neo-Con administration's onlt legacy,the movement between parties is very limited. Thus the dependence on independents.
We only have to read the US right wingers on this site, to understand that they are so blinded by their own ideology that they can not see their reality staring them right in the face.
Peter -
I still think McCain will win and the GOP will have to clean up its own mess.
Well that's barely less palatable. Republican governments spend money and make new laws as if conservatism never existed. I subscribe to the P.J. O'Rourke line where they're concerned, that the Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and then they get elected and prove it
A couple more wars will add significantly to the deficit and the dollar will fall off a cliff.
Well if Americans want wars, the post-modern Left is always ready and willing to deliever. Blair waged more wars than any prime minister. Clinton was up for a punch up too, as Somalia, Kosovo, Haiti, a low intensity war in Iraq and preparations for the full thing show.
If you want to see the US rein back from foreign conflicts, pray that conservatives one day take over from Wilsonian liberals.
David -
It did occur to me that the commie crybabies would probably burn the house down, but then the Founding Fathers bequeathed a government-limiting Constitution to prevent just that.
Oh hang on, that was the first thing they set fire to ....
If you want to see the US rein back from foreign conflicts, pray that conservatives one day take over from Wilsonian liberals.
I assume you mean the neo-cons, since they still have a wish-list of countries to be attacked. And if McCain wins, these people will still be very influential in foreign policy.
This was written as if the last 8 years have not been a nightmare. In any event, I doubt there is going to be any landslide, should be very close.
they haven't been Mahons believe it or not most 90% of americans are living well inspite of record oil prices (which the dems have caused) and we have won the first battle in the war on terror inspite of the democrats saying we lost add to that no terror attacks at home and despite all the fear mongering no americans harrassed by the patriot act.
The only nightmare for your side is the fact of how well things have really gone
It is like arguing with someone about the existence of gravity. No terror attacks at home? How about September 11, 2001. Never mind the two wars (plural mind you and both with no end in sight). Oh, and there is this little problem with the economy.....
your right it's It is like arguing with someone about the existence of gravity...lol
I believe in gravity you don't.
Sept 11th you mean the operation that was setup by the guy Clinton refused to capture besides you were decrying about post 9-11 not pre
I mean the operation by the guy Bush was warned about the month before it happened. Timing is everything.
ahh yes time and timing like the 8 years of time that saw attacks on our embassies an attack on the world trade center an attack on the Cole
yes the time to react wasn't then
but they did react in time to burn all those terrorists in Waco
Ss you admit that September 11 2001 attack did in fact occur in the last 8 years. A breakthrough!
Soon I'll have you admit it rained in New Orleans.
"I mean the operation by the guy Bush was warned about the month before it happened. "
That sound like trutherism, and I don't believe you're one of those so in what sense do you mean that Bush was warned about the operation?
Ross - He was seriously warned in August 2001, but not of the particular operation. I don't personally fault him for the attack, but I won't let the Trolls of the world pretend the last eight years were bliss. If 9/11 happend while a Democrat was in office he'd claim it was their responsibility.
OK, thanks for clearing that up.
I think Obama will win in a landslide in the electoral college, like 400-138. And he will be ahead in the popular vote by 10%. McCain does not seem like he wants the Presidency. He is not openly admitting this. But he secretly does not want to be at the helm if we face a major crisis either at home or overseas. I sense McCain is subtly orchestrating his moves in order to lose this election. He did not take advantages of opportunities he had during the last debate, nor is he campaigning with a lot of fire. I think when McCain loses in a landslide on November 4th, he will publicly be gracious and show some disappointment. But, inside, he will be breathing a sigh of relief. And, it will be Obama who will be facing the biggest headache of all. And he will try his best, but it will be an uphill battle - which could even end up in an assassination.
Lilly: "which could even end up in an assassination."
What a load of "race-card" bull. What we can be sure of is that an Obama Administration will start in corruption, continue in corruption, and end in corruption.
Google Franklin Raines, Obama's Economic Advisor for more info.
I think Obama's senior aides are engaged in wishful thinking. They reject all analysis except for their 'private polls'. LOL.
G'head. Keep dreaming.
Patty, Monica, where is Palin when her country needs her?
She should be using all those administrative skills to sort out this mess before November. But no - she seems to havee gone underground for the best part of a week just to prepare for a debate!
And McCain, is he campaigning or fighting for his country's economic health like he said he would?
Jayzus, where the hell have the two of them gone?
turnabout fair play, eh noel? :)
"Patty, Monica, where is Palin when her country needs her?"
Noel,
She's out of harm's way. The best place for her!