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05Jun2008

OVER HERE - HILLARY FAILS TO CLIMB EVEREST

Senator Hillary Clinton will announce the suspension of her campaign and her support for Senator Obama this Saturday, according to all reports.  Core supporters and mounting campaign debt have impressed the need to take this step upon her (not to mention the voters).  I am fairly certain that the house in Chappaqua, New York, will be an unpleasant place for a few weeks to say the least. 

There are still women alive who did not have the right to vote at one time in the U.S.  If we take a historic view, rather than simply the political view, we have to credit that she did come closer than any woman has ever gone in securing a major party presidential nomination.  One day we'll reach that milestone, as the UK, India and Israel have.  I'll give her credit for a good fight, and for not bowing out just because things got tough.  And Obama now finds himself with much more distance to travel to the center than his Republican adversary. 

To some extent, Hillary was a fad.  By that I mean she was a virtual celebrity by virtue of her marriage to Bill Clinton, and was able to start out ahead of the game.  A First Lady running for her husband's former office is also a first.  But that fad also had a lot of baggage, the Clintons generate as much hate as love, and I doubt Obama will want to have to deal with those issues in a Vice Presidental running mate.  So now that the fad lady will sing, is the Party over?  Not by a long shot.  McCain v. Obama, old v. young, black v. white, war v. peace, and a host of other issues, real and imagined will swirl around in the political whirlpool until November.  The winner?  I couldn't tell you, but I'll bet someone here will.       

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Let the Games Begin!

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 03:46PM | Registered CommenterNoel Cunningham

Noel: Or Let the Dating Begin! as Bill Clinton might say.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 03:55PM | Registered CommenterMahons


I see that according to the latest poll of polls, Obama is already 2 points ahead of McCain. And this based on data collected before he got the nomination.
This is going to be fun.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 04:13PM | Registered CommenterNoel Cunningham

I must be missing some essential gene or hormone. I didn't get all excited when Elizabeth Dole was on the VP ticket and I have no feeling of "womanly" pride that Hillary ran for president. Put her politics aside - I just don't get jazzed up over women candidates solely because of their femaleness. I don't feel a sense of validation or sisterhood or success or parity or whatever adjective is currently being flung about, I just don't care that they are women - what's so darn special about a candidate with a uterus?

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 05:44PM | Registered CommenterDaphne

Mahons,

"HILLARY FAILS TO CLIMB EVEREST"

Oh exquisite! One of your bestest. Are you secretly taking lessons in comedy from Jackie Mason? :0)

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 05:47PM | Registered CommenterDawkins

yes the woman named after a man who didn't achieve his fame until after she was born...LOL

If any thing else more damaging comes out on the Obamanation she may still steal the nomination.

"McCain v. Obama, old v. young, black v. white, war v. peace," Thats rich Mahons. how about Insane vs Idiot, racist vs elitist, & defense vs surrendor

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 05:59PM | Registered CommenterGrizzly Mama / Troll

Daphne: Well if McCain or Obama has a uterus that would certainly make them special.

I don't suggest someone need support Hillary because she is a woman, just that it is a sign of advancement (but not the measure of advancement). Putting her unique persona aside, it was a plus for women. I suppose I have to go with the old line about Ginger Rogers having danced the same steps as Fred Astaire, only backward and in high heels.

Dawkins: I wish, Jackie cracks me up.

Troll: You've announced your candidacy?

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 07:33PM | Registered CommenterMahons

Troll's Mama: great comeback at 5:59.

I would add to the McCain v.Obama comparison:

adult v.child

experience v. inexperience

good judgment v. no judgment,

curious and engaged in actual reality of Iraq v. strangely indifferent to facts on the ground in Iraq

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 07:35PM | Registered CommenterPatty

Patty: I promise not to tell Mitt you've fallen for McCain.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 07:39PM | Registered CommenterMahons

Mahons: Funny headline.

It's a shame for Hillary that she found her stride so late in the race. She really is a fighter. I don't want to insult the memory of the race horse, Sea Biscuit, but there are similarities. And not just in the looks department.

I haven't fallen for McCain. I just fancy my personal survival, the survival of my country, and the economic future of my family.

Obama - radical Marxist with bad judgment and little experience - is not an option.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 07:53PM | Registered CommenterPatty

Thank you Patty. I myself am not sure of which way to go at the moment.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:02PM | Registered CommenterMahons

I think I'm going to write in Zell Miller. :-)

Obama is a walking socialist utopian nightmare.
McCain is an angry weird old man, who has made colossally horrible legislative decisions.

Bah.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:18PM | Registered CommenterDaphne

Daphne: I want Florida Governor Crist to be McCain's running mate so I can write "The Power of Crist Compels You!"

Then I want Obama to choose Gore as a running mate so Troll can shoot out his television.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:24PM | Registered CommenterMahons

ah man, you just made me snort margarita out my nose - :-D

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:29PM | Registered CommenterDaphne

Funny I thought about Gore as VP yesterday.

Though 16 years as second fiddle may not be in line with an ego greatly expanded by the Oscar, Nobel Prize, and the adulation of an adoring planet.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:30PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Crist compels you...lol

this election is one of those horrible choice stories, what should we amputate your hand or your foot?

I would like to see McCain at least pick someone with half an inkling of coservatism.. I might have to settle for at least one oar in reality.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:31PM | Registered CommenterGrizzly Mama / Troll

What kind of profile in an Obama's running mate would best bolster his chances, mahons & daphne?

If he ignores HC he may lose a lot of the Dem base. What about some conservative leaning type with proven patriotic credentials to offset the image Daphne mentions? (Maybe Troll can expect a call one of these days!)
Someone's going to have to impress the electorate with a credible plan for the economy, by the look of things.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:32PM | Registered CommenterNoel Cunningham

Damn it woman, you drink margaritas, you snort coke. How many times must you be told!

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:34PM | Registered CommenterMahons

Many times Mahon, I am a stupid, stupid woman. Maybe I need to hang out with Dawkins to get my drink/blow etiquette together.

Noel - Obama should pick Colin Powell!!!!!!

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:38PM | Registered CommenterDaphne

Shoot somebody ought to promise to immediately jump on all the Bush tax cuts that are set to expire next year and make them permanent. And promise to get some new refineries built, some nuke plants going and open up North Dakota for drilling ASAP.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:40PM | Registered CommenterDaphne

Noel: If he has to pick someone from Pennsylvania other than Troll perhaps Pennslyvania Governor Ed Rendell, he was a Hillary supporter so that eases her pain and he comes from a must win state.

I'd also like to see McCain select our Andrew McCann -

McCain and McCann. McCain could say something and Andrew could cut off all debate. However, there are Constitutional issues that would prevent such a pairing.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:41PM | Registered CommenterMahons

That guy one heartbeat away from the nuclear button?

That's the one way you'd get me to vote for Obama.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:43PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Obama & Gore your right I would shoot the TV

as it stands now I shall be in political exile, undermining the established party structure from within and without

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:47PM | Registered CommenterGrizzly Mama / Troll

Mahons,

I'm glad you didn't suggest Obama pick Andrew - can you imagine:

Andrew: Can I nuke the ROI/bradford/....
Obama: Yes you can!

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:48PM | Registered CommenterFrank O'Dwyer

Mahons - that could be an explosive combination.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:48PM | Registered CommenterDaphne

I'm going to have to find the nose plugs for this thread.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:49PM | Registered CommenterDaphne

Phantom,

"That guy one heartbeat away from the nuclear button?"

Good reason to vote for McCain I guess...no way in hell he'd remember the launch codes long enough to punch them in.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:50PM | Registered CommenterFrank O'Dwyer

Frank: Talk about change.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 08:51PM | Registered CommenterMahons

Frank

I will read that on the way home today.

But I do not know why there would be very slight rise of sea levels in some places (none to the naked eye by me, or to boaters that I have heard on the subject ) but in Kiribiti there is enough to submerge agricultural lands?

It is one ocean, so there should be a very similar rise everywhere one would think?

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 09:07PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Troll, sounds like you need a friendly nation to take you in while you hatch your plans - Texas would probably suit your needs.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 09:08PM | Registered CommenterDaphne

oops Frank

wrong thread

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 09:08PM | Registered CommenterThe Phantom

Phantom,

"It is one ocean, so there should be a very similar rise everywhere one would think?"

Yes but actually the rates aren't uniform at all - different in different regions and at different latitudes etc. There are even places where it fell during some periods while rising in others.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 09:59PM | Registered CommenterFrank O'Dwyer

Daphne,

"Maybe I need to hang out with Dawkins to get my drink/blow etiquette together."

LOL. Blow etiquette chez Dawkins can be summarized in one simple interdiction: teeth.

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 10:16PM | Registered CommenterDawkins

WTF does that mean Dawkins?

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 10:36PM | Registered CommenterDaphne

that was nasty Dawkins

Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 11:34PM | Registered CommenterGrizzly Mama / Troll

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