OVER HERE - McCAIN AT WATERLOO
Sunday, October 26, 2008 at 09:54PM Ok, so it was Waterloo, Iowa. You still get the picture.
John McCain has reached a conclusion, and Sarah Palin agrees with him - George Bush is killing them.
Having assisted in the destruction of Iraq, New Orleans and the national economy, George Bush has one last moment as King Midas in Reverse. He will assist in destroying the chances of the Republican Party to win the 2008 election. And his role in that destruction is not merely passive. It is real, it is effective and it will be part of his legacy.
Sarah "Simplefolks-R-Us" Palin announced that George Bush is their campaign's biggest obstacle. You think? If it wasn't for the hurricane they would have invented something to keep Bush away from the convention. Hell, he's as welcome on the campaign trail as veneral disease at the College of Cardinals or the hat check guy at a Hasidic Wedding.
Poor John McCain was in Waterloo, Iowa this morning on Meet the Press straight talking his way into a straight jacket. He slammed W for the economy, the national debt, climate change and differences on the war in Iraq. Then, with a face like a man whose sucked lemons for a week, he acknowledged that he has voted with Bush over 90% of the time. Gentle readers, I may not be that great at the "New Math", but that seems fairly high to me. Mercy.
I pity the man. John McCain ran a primary campaign that demonstrated that the so called base of the Republican Party did not have to be given a lifetime of pandering for a candidate to secure the nomination. They hated him and he still won. He then ignored that fact, placated the right with an unqualified runing mate, and ran right when he should have run center. Some Maverick. Unless losing is the highest form of maverickness. Senator McCain, we American voters may not all be Joe the plumbers, but we have finally realized that when it comes to Bush and those who would continue his policies - it is time to flush.
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>>it is time to flush.<<
An apt ending for a post headed "Water loo", mahons.
Problem is, when you flush what you are left with is just as repellent....
If this is Waterloo, then McCain will come out as Wellington! The polls continue to close. It ain't over by a long shot.
And here is the bauld McCain, explaining all about "spreading the wealth", back in 2000 before it was a socialist thing.
Noel - I wish I was smart enough to have intended that. Um, I mean of course I meant that.
Well Mahons, since you're not smart enough to vote McCain, I'll forgive! ;)
Charles - Thank you sir, and may I say it is looking like you'll have to forgive a lot of people.
David - that is the audacity of hope. Hope, like other contents of the bathroom throne, floats.
Frank - Nice find.
Hopefully only 49.999% of the country, not counting those Dems that voted mutiple times! LOL
Mahons.
Hope makes a good breakfast and a poor supper. Starvation and audacity can be strongly linked.
Frank,
Stealing wealth IS a socialist thing.
David - a lack of hope, which we call despair, is considered a sin. In any event, look at the states in play - Virginia, Colorado, Iowa - if McCain is going to win he needs these states. McCain is the one who needs hope now.
No - it is America that needs hope...McCain is but a by product.
To have hope, of course, with an absence of reason, is folly. That too is a sin.
The media - including Mahons -- beat a steady drumbeat of "it's all over for McCain."
Remember how the media declared Obama the winner, basically appointing him nominee over Hilary?
The polls only "tighten up" at the end because pollsters have reputations, and they have to stop pushing their agenda (elect Obama) and reflect some reality in the numbers.
Depressing the vote is an age-old tactic. And here's hoping that it fails and Republicans
turn up at the voting booth.
McCain is behind in objectively neutral polls. As for my trying to supress voting, I don't believe the readership of my few posts is significant to warrant that. McCain is behind, and his own campaign people have said so, and he's already given up on Michigan.
What neutral polls? You only wish he would give up, Mahons.
The Obama campaign railroaded Hilary and it worked - Obama was selected,not elected.
But, even though some Irish bookies feel differently, I wouldn't take an Obama win against McCain to the bank.
There are plenty of neutral polls, even polling from conservative leaning organizations (the Wall Street Journal for example).
I don't wish McCain to "give up." I believe in elections and hope he fights to the end, which I beleive he will do. I wish he would have run smarter.
Obama won the nomination of his party, fair and square. As did McCain, and I recall you favored a guy named Romney who was soundly rejected. I hope you didn't take Romney to the bank.
I don't believe the media are capable of neutral polling.
I also wish McCain would have run smarter,or at least stayed on message. And I wish the MSM weren't in the tank for Obama. And I wish Hillary had been nominated. And I wish Giuliani and Fred hadn't thrown their hats in the ring because maybe Romney could have won. And I wish.....
I don't know how you can say Obama won fair and square. He was virtually selected, with the media pounding the table every night saying that Hilary was somehow staying in and hurting the party, etc. She had the popular vote. Obama won because she neglected in the beginning of the race to tend to the caucus states. I wish Hillary had run smarter.
Patty - I voted for Senator Clinton in the New York primary. I wish she won the nomination too, but she didn't and what ifs don't make a winner.
Hell, at this point I'd kiss the *ahem* Senator.
>>And I wish Hillary had been nominated. <<
Why, Patty?
Noel: I'd much prefer Hillary over Obama. If a Democrat has to win. At the end of the day -- even though Hillary is a Big Government leftist like Obama - Hillary loves America.
I don't think Obama loves America. I don't think that Obama was unaware of the politics and hatred for America when he became associated with Ayers and Wright; I don't think Obama was just an innocent bystander.
I think Obama is a radical and Obama actively sought out fellow radicals. Obama has no business in the Executive Office of a country he hates; Obama hates America because Obama feels America is racist and imperialist.
This can come to no good.(for America)
**I don't think Obama loves America. I don't think that Obama was unaware of the politics and hatred for America when he became associated with Ayers and Wright; I don't think Obama was just an innocent bystander.
I think Obama is a radical and Obama actively sought out fellow radicals. Obama has no business in the Executive Office of a country he hates; Obama hates America because Obama feels America is racist and imperialist.**
Patty, what are you going to do if Obama gets elected.
It is a serious question considering you feel the way you do.
People who want chage for america do not america, most of them simply want more for it then they are getting
Right now the right wingnuts have sold america to the highest bidder, unfortunately the highest bidder is China
Okay that posts looks like I am on drugs
People who want chagne for america do not hate america, most of them simply want more for it then they are getting
>>I don't think Obama loves America. I don't think that Obama was unaware of the politics and hatred for America when he .<<
Maybe he doesn't love things like the flag or your coountry's international standing, which for a lot of people are what America really is, but I believe he does love the American people, or at least has their interests much more at heart than McCain or Bush ever does. And that's what counts.
Besides, if Obama really hated the US, as you claim, he would have supported Bush all along!
Here's Ed Rollins, political director for R. Reagan and national chairman of Huckabee's presidential campaign:
"(Bush) will leave office with the lowest approval ratings of any president in modern times and will be judged as a catastrophic failure who destroyed his party, left his successor with two unpopular, unfinished wars and left the country in the worst economic condition in nearly eight decades."
I think Obama is a radical and Obama actively sought out fellow radicals. Obama has no business in the Executive Office of a country he hates; Obama hates America because Obama feels America is racist and imperialist.
Patty, this is verging on tinfoil hat territory. His policies on virtually everything are similar if not identical to Hillary's. What makes you think Obama thinks the US is "racist and imperialist"?
Also, Obama won the primary because he won more delegates than Clinton did. Not because he was selected by the media.
Neal, it was a joke here during the Dem primary at how the media fawned over Obama at Hillary's expense. Someone should come up with that SNL skit on the subject.
"Patty, what are you going to do if Obama gets elected."
Pinky, there is only two things of which I am certain: death and taxes.
And with Obama I'm certain I will pay a lot more taxes. Hopefully, I will outlive Obama and help to elect someone else.
Neal: Are you aware that Obama spent 20 years in Reverand Wright's church? He was married in this church; he baptized his children in this church; he named his book "The Audacity of Hope" after one of Reverand Wright's sermons. Reverand Wright's church is a church based on Black Liberation Theology which origingated in the1960's and which posits a Marxist ideology, as well as the notion that America is both racist and imperialist.
Based on his history with the church, and his obvious high regard for the church,why is it outlandish (tinfoil hatish?) to think that Obama might share the views of this church? It is the willful denial of this obvious fact that strikes me,at least, as tinfoil hat whatever.
Plain and simple, Obama's a socialist. The rest is all backwash.
Obama may very will be the most liberal person running with a chance of securing the presidency. I tend to think he's pragmatic and swam among the liberals if you will as a way to power (we can't all be born into it like George W for instance). I am hoping he is pragmatic enough to recognize that he will have to compromise and work with others who are not liberal. Time will tell.
I'm hoping for the same Mahons.....but I still think he's a socialist. ;-)
mahons
But with fat majorities in the House and Senate, he won't have to do much accomodating to the views of other. It would all be varying shades of blue
Phantom - I know the tendancy among some here is to label all Democrats socialists, they are not. And don't forget the Republicans will have a voice even if they lose seats.
Daphne - Well let me dream at least.
I'd love to see that Joe Lieberman was cast into a position of extreme leverage
Charles,
Be that as it may, the reason he won the primary is that according to long-established DNC rules, he earned the most delegates.
Patty,
Of course I'm aware. However, I don't think his attendance at the church, no matter for how long, means he agrees with everything that's said from the pulpit. Obama condemned and made clear he disagreed with the inflammatory statements that you refer to. It's my understanding that the vast majority of services at the church were typical Sunday fare and lacked anything controversial. I also think you fail to understand the role of churches like Wright's in the black community and how they serve to connect people. Certainly an argument can be made that Obama should've quit the church earlier if he disagreed with the political tone, but it's a long leap to the idea that he agrees with everything any representative of the church ever said.
Neal: There is no way Obama did not know of the racist cant peddled by Wright (Flage and others.) No way.They even sold videos of it in the lobby.
There are many, many churches in Chicago. Obama chose to connect to a racist anti-American church. It's a free country. He may do as he wishes in this regard.
However, I think he is unqualified to be Chief Executive of this great nation because at the very minimum a President should wish the best for the whole country, not just segments of it. Obama favors poor, blacks and his pastor curses whites. This isn't going to result in stellar leadership.
>>I am hoping he is pragmatic enough to recognize that he will have to compromise an<<
Let's face it, the most likely scenario is that Obama will as president be what so many of his generation and background are when they come to power. Like Germany's Joshka Fischer for example.
Fischer was also a street agitator and even general urban guerrilla in his day. Footage of him punching and kicking cops during riots in the 60's was shown non-stop on German TV before elections. Once in power, however, he was the very model of a modern foreign minister: fired with a sense of duty towards all citizens and sincere responsibility for his country's past; he broke new ground by sending German soldiers outside the country's borders for the first time (Kosovo and Afghanistan).
There's no doubt in my mind that Obama will be just as conscientious, dedicated and honourable when in office.
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Patty,
"I think he is unqualified to be Chief Executive of this great nation because at the very minimum a President should wish the best for the whole country, not just segments of it. "
So that rules out Palin then, as she would only serve 'Real America'.
Palin's attempts to portray one part of America against another are weird. But what can I expect from a woman whose most profound foreign affairs experience is breakfasting at the International House of Pancakes.
Patty
And with Obama I'm certain I will pay a lot more taxes.
Of course you will pay more taxes, but its because of bush's spend and don't tax policy
Think of gregarious georges reign as a giant credit card. Sure he didnt spend cash to buy all those nice pressies he dazzled you with, but its the end of the month and the american express card is due and the bank is shown overdrawn
what a load of crap. Most internal polls have them tied or within the margin of error.
Obamma has as good chance of losing as winning.
Patty
I never said he didn't know about it, I'm sure that he did. That doesn't mean he believed it. You're ignoring my actual point. You're entitled to believe that Obama "favors poor, [sic] blacks" all you want, it doesn't make you correct.
I'm not at all certain that I'd pay more taxes if Obama wins vs. if McCain wins. According to the plans they've each described it would be the reverse. However, I'd far rather pay higher taxes to an administration that I have confidence in domestically and internationally, and that reflects my views. I would not be happy to pay lower taxes to an administration that I disagree with and that I believe would make too many impulsive, harmful decisions.
Troll - how do you know what the internal polls say?