PLAGUED BY HOMOMANIA
Saturday, July 4, 2009 at 10:03AM I read that leading gay MPs were at loggerheads last night after a Cabinet minister accused the Tories of being 'plagued by homophobia'.
Gay Culture Secretary Ben Bradshaw claimed that many Conservative MPs were prejudiced against people in same- sex relationships.Mr Bradshaw, one of the first MPs to enter into a civil partnership, spoke out ahead of the Gay Pride march in London today, and as a poll suggested that homosexual voters were turning to the Tories.
'A deep strain of homophobia still exists on the Conservative benches,' he claimed, adding that David Cameron 'talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk' on the issue. Foreign Office minister Chris Bryant, who is openly gay, said: 'I think if gays vote Tory, they will rue the day very soon.
It's amazing how many gay people inhabit the political world, isn't it? Only the world of entertainment and possibly the priesthood could claim even greater gay representation!
Labour seem to specialise in elevating gay MP's and the Tories seem just as keen on the pink agenda. My view is that I am sick to the back teeth of hearing gays harp on about how disadvantaged/persecuted they are. Get a life and get on with your life. I feel no need to have a "Straight Pride" day and view the sort of farce as Gay Pride Day as nothing short of grotesque. There will be plenty of gay people who are content to live their lives without flaunting their sexuality in the streets. I find the Gay Pride parade a dismal vulgar spectacle.
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....quite like the newspaper headline today: 'Gay Gordon v Camp David'.
David
I quite like the idea of a straight pride march. ;o)
The situation we are in is that, even though it has changed dramaticacally over the last 30 yrs, many gay people have know a history of being made to feel ashamed of their orientation. Gay Pride is an understandable reaction to that. I think some in the public eye are a tad patronising in their show of solidarity but I don't have a problem with the concept.
I tend to go with the "al long as they don't frighten the horse" idea. (will there be horses on the parade? )
Aileen - some of the gay pride parades in California would frighten the horses right to death. They're disgusting.
Would it be homophobic to suggest that this is all handbags at dawn?
Monica, Just admit it; it's the people you find disgusting, not the parade. Or maybe it's both.
AJ,
Absolutely - both!...
AJ- One can be a supporter of equal rights for homosexuals as I am and still acknowledge as Monica rightly points out that the behavior of some participants in various gay pride celebrations are often indecent and tasteless. In fact that type of behavior is one of the worst obstacles for people who are attempting to overcome the opposition to civil rights for gay people.
Monica
I was actually thinking that as I wrote ;o).
I het the impression that the GP march in London has become very mainstream. Of course the % of the parade who are actaully homosexual is decreasing year on year.
Maybe everyone else should ignore gays. The world's indifference would infuriate them.
Mahons,
You have a valid point there. A parade is a parade, and extremes are to be expected, and are part of the fun, but these Pride parades have gone beyond that, and many would be banned if shown in a theatre.
It seems a very peculiar way to convince 'non-believers' that gays are just ordinary everyday folk and all they want is general acceptance, - which is reasonable, - I suppose!Any self respecting person, whether gay or straight, would be loath to be associated with some of the parade floats, which by any standards are gross...
One fat gay scumbag in Belfast a year or two ago ( in fact he is the NI gay rights spokesperson ) carried a placard saying "Jesus is a fag", others openly exposed themselves at ordinary passers by which included women and children.
Very proud indeed.
AJ
In any number of these ( ahem ) " pride " parades, the participants celebrated their " pride " by blowing each other in the street, or by performing other acts. Now, that's something to be proud of, ain't it?
At last year's Gay Pride Parade in Belfast City Centre, Gay Pride was celebrated by masturbating infront of children and attacking a Catholic Priest. You can be tollerant of Homosexuality without accepting that this random nonsesne should continue on your streets.
Seamus
Sorry to hear that - and such incidents have happened in NY, where the " proud " performed such acts in front of St. Patrick's Cathedral - forget about San Francisco.
This is the public face of the gay political movement. I don't want to hear that " its just a few people " because that's simply not true.
It's people as part of fairly large parades, acting this way without getting criticized by the other paraders. They are all culpable. How proud they must be.
"...quite like the newspaper headline today: 'Gay Gordon v Camp David'."
Not as good as the Sun when Elton John got hitched: "Elton takes David up the aisle".
"Mr Bradshaw, one of the first MPs to enter into a civil partnership, spoke out ahead of the Gay Pride march in London today, and as a poll suggested that homosexual voters were turning to the Tories."
Gays are turning to the Tories because people are turning to the Tories (or more correctly, away from Labour) as indicated by polls. This shows how normal most gays are. Very few of them would condone the perversion displayed on the 'pride' parades.
Riiiiiight... those gays should just sit at home and feel ashamed, right?
David: The straight pride day question has been thrown around by homophobes so many times, it's tired and in need of a rest. If straight people could have been arrested an imprisoned in Northern Ireland until the early 80s for dating other straight people, they would have every reason to hold an annual pride march. If straight people were refused the right to marry, they could have something to should about on the streets. Pride is a march for civil and human rights. It has a carnival spirit, but a serious message is there. After years of being told to hide our sexuality, remain in the shadows, and be quiet about out rights because people like you would rather not have to see us or hear us, gay people have decided they aren't going to put up with the mistreatment anymore.
David, you say you are a libertarian - so am I. That's why I defend the rights of every person, gay and straight, to equal treatment before the law. Your libertarianism is fake, because you want liberty for some, but not for all. Cut the bullshit, please, David. Admit you are an old-school homophobe and be done with it. Join the ranks of the religious abomination-spouters. But please stop abusing the word Libertarian by applying it to yourself.
If they are of the type who wishes to perform sexual acts in front of women and children, yes they should.
"You can be tollerant of Homosexuality without accepting that this random nonsesne should continue on your streets."
There is absolutely nothing random about it. The public lewdness and the indifference of the authorities are all part of the same very deliberate agenda.
"Riiiiiight... those gays should just sit at home and feel ashamed, right?"
Considering that the bulk of the latest comments were about disgraceful and criminal behavour of some of those on parade. I think most of us would wish that they had sat at home and one hopes that they do feel ashamed right!!!
Belfast Pride 99.9% harmless and less drunken than an Orange march, just.
JC -
That's why I defend the rights of every person, gay and straight, to equal treatment before the law.
Advertising your sexuality and willy waving is an odd way to do it. Given the behaviour shown at these parades worldwide, some might wonder if some gays were secretly happier as martyrs in a hostile world and would rather go back there. You just don't get that frisson of excitement when no-one gives a monkey's about your sexuality, do you?
I don't care what they do in private so long as they keep it that way but I find the idea of celebrating gayness offensive. If they want to be homosexual let them be dignified about the unnatural practice. And what is worse is our politicians giving their support to such an event. We each have our own peculiar faults but don't find the need to flaunt them in public. How about the gluttons' pride day or the wife beaters' pride day? Being homosexual isn't the cause for celebration that they are trying to force us into accepting and Gordon Brown and his ilk should be ashamed of themselves.
I think equating homosexuality to wife beating shows why some feel the need to make a stand. Unlless of course we're talking consentual "alternative" stuff - wonder what that "pride" march would be like.
The gluttony pride thing cound be good though! Sounds like a fun day out.
I think most of us would wish that they had sat at home
I don't doubt it for a second, Aileen.
To Aileen, I'm not equating wife beating or gluttony with homosexuality, but none of those things are cause for celebration in my mind and as DSD pointed out it is possible to be tolerant of homosexuality without the insistence on accepting that it is normal. Personally - and I think in the opinion of the majority - I find the concept of Gay Pride marches ridiculous and offensive in equal measure and marching won't make a jot of difference to the rest of us apart from making us anti-gay.
"This is the public face of the gay political movement."
After all, it could have nothing to do with the likes of this.
But of course, all that is old hat (article dated 3 Jul 2009, 0109 hrs IST).
And of course:
The verdict triggered protests from religious leaders across the spectrum who invoked the ``will of God'' to claim that the ruling would lead to the ``ruination'' of society and family values.
"I think most of us would wish that they had sat at home
I don't doubt it for a second, Aileen."
So you have a problem with people wishing that those who masterbate in front of children had instead stayed at home? I am glad to say that I have no reason to doubt that most homosexuals would have a similar wish.
*shudders
Damn it, I keep foretting to log on. This comment will show up before the one I just posted.
Marloy
I don't share it but you are entitled to your disgust.
You used the other examples to show things you don't think of cause for celebratiion and as that is the attribute you were highlihgting umless you make it clear, the default is thta you have them in the same category wrt that attribute, i.e. homosexuality is in the same league wrt to being not something to celebrate.
I doubt very much if any (or at least many) of the homosexuals on parade is there because they are trying to change your mind. They are there for themselves and (apart from those individuals that have been engaged in indecent and criminal activity, that AJ, seems to think we should have no problem with), good luck to them say I.
If male homosexuality is normal, why did God or Evolution not make the equipment fit? He / She / They did so for hetrosexuality in order to procreate.
Just a thought?
Exactly, Aileen, they are there for themselves. Selfishness at the core of it and no thought given to how it offends public decency. True homosexuals who have loving partners keep their relationships private and personal and do not feel the need to parade like freaks in order to prove God knows what.
I wish these homos would organise a parade for mecca
don't hold your breath
William
"If male homosexuality is normal, why did God or Evolution not make the equipment fit? He / She / They did so for hetrosexuality in order to procreate.
Just a thought?"
Who says that it's normal. It isn't - it deviates from the norm. - So now do those who refrain from sex before marriage. Normal isn't really relevant. If sex is just about procreation then should couples not able to have children not have any?
Marloy
"Exactly, Aileen, they are there for themselves. Selfishness at the core of it and no thought given to how it offends public decency. "
Selfishness is irrelevant. If you mean those who are committing indecent acts then selfishness is not the issue, criminality is.
If you mean those who are just on a parade having a day out, they why shouldn't they be selfish?
True homosexuals who have loving partners keep their relationships private and personal and do not feel the need to parade like freaks in order to prove God knows what.
" True homosexuals " ?
Don't know. There have been enough, large of freak-show "pride" parades in many cities of the world.
This has become the face of the " gay movement " that the average person sees. With major politicians marching alongside.
Yes, politicians who make grave errors of judgment with every breath they take (and every move they make!) especially espousing themselves to every wrong cause imaginable. Can you even remember when Gordon Brown or David Cameron for that matter uttered anything sensible and in tune with public opinion? If they think that aligning themselves with the militant Gay Agenda is the right thing to do then we as a country don't stand a chance. Dumbed down and morally bankrupt.
"If male homosexuality is normal, why did God or Evolution not make the equipment fit?"
I think you may be doing it wrong.
"There will be plenty of gay people who are content to live their lives without flaunting their sexuality in the streets. I find the Gay Pride parade a dismal vulgar spectacle."
So organisations should not march where they're not welcome?
oops
My cutting pasting and quotwing went a bit bananas there. The last para was quoting Marloy, not my opinion