Saudis: Rape Victim Committed Adultery
Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 10:53PM The Saudis continue to heap abuse on the rape victim who had her punishment increased for speaking out about the case.
These ghouls just cannot accept the fact people around the world are disgusted by this and feel the need to further humiliate the victim.
Rape victim committed adultery: Saudi Arabia
A woman in Saudi Arabia sentenced to six months in jail and 200 lashes despite being gang raped has confessed to adultery, the justice ministry said as it tried to fend off mounting criticism.
Of course, we have no reason to think they'd be lying, right?
Despite being sexually assaulted by seven men who kidnapped her with a male companion at knifepoint, the unidentified 19 year-old woman was sentenced in November 2006 to 90 lashes.
The judge sentenced her for being in a car with a man who was not her relative, a taboo in the conservative Muslim kingdom which imposes strict segregation of the sexes.
But her story hit international headlines last week when her sentence was increased to six months in jail and 200 lashes after she spoke to the media.
The justice ministry said in a statement carried by the official SPA news agency that the woman had owned up to having an extramarital affair with the man in the car.
"She admitted to ... exchanging sinful relations," the statement said, adding the woman was in state of undress with the man in the car before the attack took place.
The woman and her alleged lover remained quiet about the attack, which was only reported to the authorities several months later when the woman's husband received an email from an unidentified source informing him of the affair.
"She admitted to what happened and the husband then reported the incident three months after it happened," the justice ministry said, adding it wanted to correct the "largely incorrect" details published in the media about the case.
The ministry also stressed the Saudi judicial system was based on Islamic law derived from the holy Koran and that a court ruling in the kingdom was only made after both sides in a case were given a fair and balanced hearing.
The men were initially sentenced to one to five years in jail, but those terms were also toughened on appeal to between two and nine years.
A rape conviction carries the death penalty in Saudi Arabia, but the court did not impose it due to the "lack of witnesses" and the "absence of confessions," the justice ministry said on Tuesday.
The woman's husband told local media that they would appeal, even though the judge had warned that the sentence could be increased again if she loses the appeal.
The justice ministry noted that the law gives the right of appeal, but warned that "resorting to the media" could have "a negative effect on the other parties in the case".
These people are just disgusting. It's not horrific enough that a rape victim is punished, then has her sentence increased, now they make these statements to further humiliate her and she can't even speak about this?
Absolutely sickening.
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Our Friends And Allies.
And this despotic, reactionary, woman-hating, spiritual home of Al-Queda, principal supplier of suicide bombers in Iraq, religious-nutter regime is our principal ally in the Middle East (after Israel) and the main supplier of our oil. Reasons to be cheerful...
Peter/Ben.
My sentiments. Stuff their oil - they are the enemy.
Their surplus oil cash will be affecting us for years whatever happens now with energy - LSE anyone?
At any rate its good the case is getting publicity - lets keep up the support. She will have to be very very brave (like Nazanin) before this changes direction.
Stuff there oil is right then drop 100 megatons of nuclear aid on them . That may cure the problem , if it works try it on the rest .
It's always nice to see a Doctor observing his hippocratic oath so faithfully
Indeed Alison.It's horrible to think that she is probably not in a unique situation.
That was an excellent post earlier, Alison. It was sickening when I saw this latest item.
Thanks and likewise. My heart sank! But I still think the more this gets attention and support the more they cannot wriggle out of this. I just hope she is strong - at least she has a husband who believes in her.
"Our Friends And Allies"
At least our other Middle Eastern friends the Egyptians are upholding a high standard of jurisprudence:
"Egyptian authorities sentenced a woman to three years in prison because her father's brief conversion to Islam 45 years ago legally made her a Muslim while her identity papers state she's a Christian.
Shadia Nagui Ibrahim, 47, was charged in Cairo with fraud even though she didn't know that according to Egyptian law, her father's conversion in 1962 made her a Muslim"
That's just crazy Ross. Are these people unaware of the sheer injustice and idiocy of such stupid laws. What the hell should it matter which faith she puts down on her official documents.
Doubt if this news will stop rummy and the bush dynasty from gleefully shaking saudi hands.
"Are these people unaware of the sheer injustice and idiocy of such stupid laws"
I suspect that the injustice is a feature of the system rather than a bug, making the law so insane that blameless individuals can be punished on the slightest pretext enhances the power of the people in charge of creating and enforcing the law.
And people wonder why I laugh when "the US" and "moral authority" appear in the same sentence.
JG
I must have missed your writings against Islam and its injustices. I've never seen a one. Please send a link to them.
If someone as prolific as you must have said something about it. I remember something kinda sorta chiding them for the cartoon riots, on a post that also had a moral equivalent statement about the press "demonising Muslims".
If you've been silent for so long, maybe you've got no "moral authority"
Ah yes, but in JG's world the US is responsible for everything bad in the world - not the people who actually commit it. And I bet they were imperialist aggressors for invading Iraq - with its equally unjust laws, mass graves, rape rooms...
Its a special kind of cognitive dissonance that allows people to go from:
"Its America's responsibility that bad people do things in other countries!"
....without a pause to:
"How dare America try and stop people doing what they want in their own countries!"
I really enjoy the views of people like JG.... morally superior to the USA and those that support it.. wishing for some form of utopia run by russia / cuba / china / venezuala and the islamic lands.. what a wonderful place that would be....
the USA and those that support it are a shining beacon of light in this world, and i'm not talking from a religious point of view, without it.. as an individual i doubt he'd be able to have a point of view.
and don't get me wrong, the USA is not perfect, but then neither is humanity, but it is the best we have got.
back to the main topic....
i wish i could say i was suprised, but after the homicide bombing by infant in Pakistan, nothing suprises me with these savages!
Why is the despotic regime in Saudi Arabia described as 'conservative'? Words such as 'backward' and 'retrograde' are the most moderate which come to my mind.
I liked DSD's comment here so much on leftist 'thinking' that I've printed it again because it hits the mark:
Its a special kind of cognitive dissonance that allows people to go from:
"Its America's responsibility that bad people do things in other countries!"
....without a pause to:
"How dare America try and stop people doing what they want in their own countries!"
Allan
It's the Right who have been the biggest supporters of Saudi Arabia.
When you say, 'the right', do you mean people like me, or corporatists like Bush, Chirac, Putin etc? How would I be supportive of such a despicable regime?
Allan
No I don't mean individuals like you. I just mean Right wing govts in power, specifically all Republican administrations in the US in recent decades.
Colm ; I thought that I had taken the Hypocritic oath , that would probably suit me better.
Everyone is a hypocrite to a certain extent.... except me of course :)
Colm - The Democrat Administrations have been in bed with the Saudis just the same as Republicans - absolutely no difference policy wise regarding Saudi Arabia.
It all comes back to getting off the Saudi oil tit if we truly want to put some muscle on their internal politics and islamic fundamentalism.
Daphne
I know, but I was specifically referring to Right wing gvernments.
I love the image of the 'Saudi Oil tit'
Here's a very good article on the U.S. - Saudi relationship for anyone interested.
http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=5927
Colm - that phrase could probably get us beheaded.
I actually visited Saudi for a couple of days. Dammam, as part of a visit by the USS Blandy Navy ship.
A local came upon us and tried to start a conversation about how the government there was awful. I wasn't about to enter into such a discussion in such a place, and kept on walking.
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DSD 9:21 nails it.
Again, I think the only solution is a Manhattan Project equivalent to develop new energy technologies, coupled with radical energy conservation measures.
You cannot possibly tell me that if America, France, Germany, Britain, and Japan made development of feasible energy alternatives in ten years the number one government priority, that they would not come up with some alternatives. Challenge our best scientists like Kennedy did.
And especially in energy hog America, in its decades long, zombielike denial on this issue,there is so much low hanging fruit as respects energy waste that could be changed in a month its ridiculous--as respects every imaginable type of energy consumption- oil, gas, coal, you name it. No national figure is leading on this issue.
Don't want to offend the SUV driving voters, those who make an Al Queda contribution every time they go to the petrol station.
I can't see how 'right-wing' governments alone have sustained the despotic regime in Saudi Arabia. As was pointed out, the Carter and Clinton administrations also ensured the incumbency of those misogynistic retrogrades. A real right-wing government would not buy their oil, would disband Aramco, would block movement of Saudi money and, in the event of further 9/11s (they were Saudis, weren't they?) would threaten to destroy Mecca and Medina. That's right-wing: Bush, Cheney, it ain't!
For better or worse, the US has been friendly with the Saudis for a for a very long time, well before the current generation of leaders.
Phantom - I only have one issue to take up with you, the SUV comment. I drive one - a big one, and because of my lifestyle I only fill up my tank every 4 to 6 weeks, much less gas consumption than your average daily commuter driving a smaller vehicle 100 miles round trip 5 days a week.
In our two car family, one of them has to seat 6-7 people, plus gear & dogs. A minivan doesn't cut it for my needs. If they ever come out with an affordable huge alternative fuel SUV - I'll buy it. Until then get off my case.
Wow! Patty the Eurocommie, Alison the Americahater and Daphne the Al Queda supporter. What a weekend it's been on ATW !
Daphne
Understood...you were a friendly fire casualty!
When you travel around America, you notice that the vast majority of SUVs...and the big stupid pickup trucks that inexplicably are popular with white collar workers in Texas (right Charles?) are used by one driver only or by one driver and a single passenger, etc.
Lots of people drive these things not because they need to haul lots of people around because they think it looks tough or cool. And you have to admit that Bill Maher was spot on when he said that
When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden
Lots of US conservatives like to tweak the libs on by bragging about the big gas guzzlers that they drive. But that is a pro bin Laden point of view, and guys like Sean Hannity and fatso blowhard Rush Limbahhh are too stupid to realize it.
Yes, drive the car that you and your family need to drive. But when you and I pay at the pump, please visualize bin Laden, Chavez and Putin accepting the cash. Because ultimately, they are!
All that oil money Bin laden earns and he's still living in a cave !
Yeah but lots of oil money from Saudi funds those madrasas in Pakistan and all over the world. And funds who knows what else as well.
I know Phantom,I know.
Just out of interest. Does anyone here support the idea of the US invading and occupying Saudi Arabia in order to control the oil ?
Not me.
I want to invade Belgium and steal its beer.
Good God No Colm! I prefer that we rescue all the women and slaves, erect a large wall and keep them all inside until they die off from lack of procreation.
Phantom - have you seen the Terror Free Oil Initiative?
http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/
Trust me, I don't enjoy going to the pump - $72.00 last week to fill her up. Do you know how much good bourbon I could be buying instead?
I've not heard about it. I do question if it could be effective, as oil is about the most fungible a resource as you can think of.
If we don't buy Saudi oil for example, the Chinese and French will not be troubled by any scruples and the Saudis will earn approximately the same price.
Yeah, and they probably wouldn't respect the wall either, be pitching women over the damned thing. :-)
Phantom
And especially in energy hog America, in its decades long, zombielike denial on this issue,there is so much low hanging fruit as respects energy waste that could be changed in a month its ridiculous--as respects every imaginable type of energy consumption- oil, gas, coal, you name it. No national figure is leading on this issue.
Hey now we Caqnadians have done very well off of suplying your energy needs. Especially now with the American Peso
I have a big red truck, plain as the day I recieved it, but I bought it for the leg room. the last time i tried a smart car I couldnt get my knees behind the dash!
Here's a wee hint, The more wee shiny bits added, the higher its jacked up and the bigger the tires....... always and i mean always means the shorter the man driving it!
Daphne
Trust me, I don't enjoy going to the pump - $72.00 last week to fill her up. Do you know how much good bourbon I could be buying instead?
A quart maybe a quart and a half