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THE HERALD OF DEFEAT....

bush%20and%20two%20clowns.jpgIsrael PM Ehud Olmert really is the most pathetic political specimen. I was reading that he has warned that failure to negotiate a two-state solution with the Palestinians would spell the end of the State of Israel. He warned of a "South African-style struggle" which Israel would lose if a Palestinian state was not established.

What he is not saying is that the "Two-State" model which Condi and the gang are retailing will in itself advance the demise of Israel since the creation of a terror state on its (reduced) borders can only further motivate Palestinians to kill and terrorise. Hamas will pocket whatever goodies come the way of Fatah, and then crush Fatah. Then Hamas will further their stated ambition to drive the Jews into the sea. Olmert is a weak unpopular political figure, a David Trimble with a star of David, bolstered up with faux peace photo-ops with Bush and Abbas - and he will be swept from power come the next election. At that point, I sincerely trust the two-State solution will be knocked on the head once and for all. The arabists in US State dream of creating a terror state next door to its one true ally in the Middle East but if it succeeds it will be a nightmare.

Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 at 08:04PM by Registered CommenterDavid Vance in | Comments14 Comments

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I don't have a comment David, it's about what we all thought it would be - a failure. Olmert's a girl and the terrorist leaders are, well, terrorists. Bush has no excuse, he's completely lame at this point.

So, I offer this instead.

Three men strike up a conversation in the airport lounge in Calgary, while
awaiting their respective flights.

One is an American Indian, another is a cowboy and the third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student.

Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim and the conversation falls into an uneasy lull.

Finally, the American Indian clears his throat and softly says, 'At one time here, my people were many, but sadly now we are few.'

The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, 'Once my people were few and now we are many,' he sneers. 'Why do you suppose that is?'

The Alberta cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth and from
the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a smooth drawl, 'That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet, but I do believe it's comin'.'

Friday, November 30, 2007 at 10:44PM | Unregistered CommenterDaphne

LOL I love that one Daph....

Friday, November 30, 2007 at 10:55PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Troll

As for the Israeli situation.

The Jews Gave Gaza to the Pally's. This was their opportunity to prove that they could conduct themselves as a civilized people.

As David and others here predicted they proved just the opposit. Unlike David I did not oppose the Jews giving Gaza to them. I actually supported the move.

Now here's where I'll get attacked...LOL

The reason for my support for this move was I knew exactly what would happen. Instead of using the resources of Gaza and there were many, along with the western financial aid. The two combined could have kept the area beutiful and made a piece of paradise for the Pally's. BUT NO the Animals that cheered in the streets giving out candy to children when the towers fell did what animals always do. They destroyed the resources and used the money to buy rockets from Iran and France. Launching themselves in a frenzy of internal and external murder, I have said on several occaisions and I repeat it now. All of Gaza should be carpet bombed preferably with Napalm.

Annapolis was a joke if the Arabs that attended could not even shake hands with Olmert then what was the purpose?

The Jews gave them their opportunity now it is time to defend themselves. Iran is building two armies on both sides of Israel one in Lebenon and one in gaza. It is time for Israel and the US to attack and do it swiftly and massivly. Flatten Gaza and amass overwhelming force around Lebenon.

Israel is about to be attacked on both sides only one nation in the end will help them, but they will have to help themselves first by removing Olmert....

Friday, November 30, 2007 at 11:12PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Troll

And the moral is that the white settlers were right to slaughter the native indians, obviously. Well heck, it was them or us and we brought "civilisation" to these savages, or at least the 10% of them who survived!

Wrong analogy Daphne. The indians posed no existential threat to the west and the descendants of the white settlers should at the very least feel uneasy about what happened to them, rather than making jokes about it.

The islamists prove that they pose that very threat, virtually every day of the week. Today they called for the death of the teddy-bear teacher in Khartoom. Let's hope she gets home safe.

Friday, November 30, 2007 at 11:15PM | Registered CommenterPeter


>>Wrong analogy Daphne<<

I also thought the analogy rather odd to say the least, Peter. Basically, what they are saying is that might is right.

OK, but then they go all outraged and wonder why the Iranians are trying to get the bomb!

Friday, November 30, 2007 at 11:22PM | Unregistered CommenterNOEL CUNNINGHAM

Noel

If the Iranians get the bomb the whole middle east will be destabilised, and a nuclear war will be a matter of when, not if. So I would (reluctantly) support an attack on their nuclear facilities as the lesser of two evils.

Friday, November 30, 2007 at 11:29PM | Registered CommenterPeter

Lighten up guys, it's Friday. It wasn't meant to be an analogy. This summit was doomed. I refuse to get all teary over Indians, no guilt on my plate for that state of affairs.

Friday, November 30, 2007 at 11:44PM | Unregistered CommenterDaphne

oh and tell all those that were slaughtered by the apache that the indians were no threat. Not to mention that the Indian tribes of North America fought and slaughtered each other OVER TERRATORY for centuries.

They only got wiped out thanks to Sam Colt and Henry Winchester....

Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 12:11AM | Unregistered CommenterThe Troll

Troll

Obviously you have no moral reservations about what a technologically advanced society inflicted on a primitive society between 1600 - 1900. Obviously it was all progress and Dancing with Wolves is commie propaganda.

In fact those injuns / buffalos are lucky we didn't kill the whole lot of them. They sure deserved it, but a bunch of bleeding heart liberals got in the way and stopped the job being completed...

Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 12:22AM | Registered CommenterPeter

"Dancing with Wolves is commie propaganda"

No, it was patronising white liberal bulls**t.

And what exactly is it you think they *were* doing before the white man arrived Peter, picking flowers and living in harmony with each other? Their lives were like my former mother-in-law - nasty, brutal and short. I don't think anyone really believes that what happened to them was *right*, but its the same kind of thing they used to quite happily do to each other all the time. Its just that the white man ended up being better at it than they were.

Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 11:44AM | Unregistered CommenterDSD

Its just that the white man ended up being better at it than they were.

No. What happened was ethnic cleansing on a continent-wide scale. End of. Not that I'd expect you to give a ****.

Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 02:12PM | Registered CommenterPeter

No, I don't. It's called History. I wasn't responsible for it, I wasn't even born when it happened and I refuse to accept any kind of guilt over it. No one is oppressing or attacking Native American communities today, in fact they are privileged members of American society who enjoy a greater autonomy than the distant descendants of those who defeated them.

I seem to remember you expressing great solidarity for all the poor dispossessed Volksdeutsche not that long ago, and telling me to shut up about repeated Arab attempts at further 'ethnic cleansing' of the Jews because it wasnt relevant. Yet apparently its now perfectly relevant to respond to a humourous joke about the subject of attacks on Israel by wittering on about the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans.

Funny that.

Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 03:08PM | Unregistered CommenterDSD

DSD

You really don't get it do ya? Daphne brought in the subject of the Indians and the thread developed.

As to your view of the slaughter, no-one is asking you to feel guilty, merely to recognise that a moral wrong was done. But hey, they were only dark skinned savages anyway, so who gives a **** what happened to them? They got wot they deserved and no mistake.

Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 06:12PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter

a moral wronge??????? You are the lasy person qualified to make a moral judgement on anything. Your a follower the global warming religion. Your Religion wants to condemn the whole 3rd world to endless poverty and death all in the name of protecting the planet....LOL

I do like the poetic sense of justice though of the little big horn. Custer wanted to get elected as president and his platform was indian genocide, but it didn't quite work out that way...LOL

Sunday, December 2, 2007 at 01:24AM | Unregistered CommenterThe Troll

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