THE KHALIDI FACTOR...
Sunday, October 26, 2008 at 09:46AM Now we all know the the media aren't that interested in discussing Obama's association with convicted terrorist Bill Ayers and the amount of dissembling that has taken place over this unfortunate relationship has been wondrous to behold.
So I figure the media will remain mute about The One's association with Rashid Khalidi?
Who is Khalidi? He is a Jew-hating former PLO operative. Obama has, of course, gone into denial mode....
"Let me respond to the question. My... uh, uh, uh, The assumption- I think the general question was that the, uh... Are there past associations of mine that would be troublesome to the Jewish community... Well, you mentioned Rashid Khalidi who's a professor at Colombia. I do know him because he taught at the University of Chicago and he is Palestinian. And, I do know him and I have had conversations. He is not one of my advisors. He is not one of my foreign policy people."
No mention of having regular dinner dates with the Khalidis nor of praising the anti-Semite Khalidi and his valuable insights. No mention of Khalidi running a fund-raiser for The One. No mention of Obama funnelling tens of thousands of dollars to Khalidi's anti-Jewish network. Not a word of any of that, for some odd reason.
As John Hinderaker pointedly asks over on Powerline..
"Maybe one of these days a reporter will ask Obama what it was about his conversations with Khalidi that he found so educational. Would it be Khalidi's musings on the most effective way to murder an American Ambassador with a machine gun? Or on how to terrorize an Olympic Village? Why, exactly, has Obama provided funding for a notorious apologist for Islamic terrorism? Maybe such questions will be asked once Obama is safely ensconced in the White House"
You can expect to hear nothing about this from the UK media. They have shown themselves to be so biased - so outrageously partisan - that ALL they care about is getting a black man in the White House. The rest is detail - and so one more dodgy Obama connection is criminally ignored. (But hey, they are so busy with Sarah Palin's shoes...the big issues, you know?) This is why the modern media is such a danger to liberty - it does not impartially report - it selects. There is a difference. So the Obama connection with Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and now Rashid Khalidi are all ignored since these do not fit the narrative.
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David as the man himself denies he was a PLO operative and he has never been convicted of such, could you provide a link which contains evidence of his PLO membership. Also a link in which he is critical of and bigoted toward the religion of Judaism would be nice as well. Because as Im sure an educated man such as yourself is aware, to be critical of a state or a politcal ideology is nothing to do with religion.
It seems that by posting this thread David the only bias on show is your own.
David, a few days ago you linked to a poll, TIPP, that showed that McCain was only 1.1 pc ahead of Obama (the same poll now shows Obama once more 4 points ahead).
Some interesting aspects were revealed in the detailed breakdown of data the same poll offered. This showed, amongst other things, that of all the religious groups in the US, the one that supports Obama by far the most and McCain by far the least is America's Jewish community. Jews give McCain only 17% support! - a huge drop from the 51% of Protestants and 49% of Catholics and other Christians who apparently support the GOP hopeful.
Then there is the "Other" group, which one can only assume is made up primarily of American Muslims (there is a separate category for those of no religion), which gives McCain a sizable 36% support, i.e. more than twice the rate of Jewish support.
(One is, however, also left wondering how such data is collected. How do they phone people and ask for their religion without the phone being slammed down on them?)
Apart from the fact that this is all very much contrary to the received wisdom on ATW - although it does seem to support the view here that Jews are by nature more intelligent than the rest of us - it must be very hard for a lot of you here to accept that Jews tend to support Hussein Obama more than the despised Muslims.
David -
It's worse than that with the media.
At Khalidi’s going-away party in 2003, the scholar lavished praise on Obama, telling the mostly Palestinian American crowd that the state senator deserved their help in winning a U.S. Senate seat. “You will not have a better senator under any circumstances,” Khalidi said.
The event was videotaped, and a copy of the tape was obtained by The Times.
Obama's terrorist chum William Ayres was at that party too - hey, you can't avoid everyone in a one horse town like Chicago - and the LA Times is refusing to release the video.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/confirmed-msm-holds-video-of-barack.html
Whats wrong with having palestinian american support?
exactly RS, the root cause of Arab dissent is the palestinian situation. Solving that removes the threat from extremism, which David and Troll etc are for ever say is their biggest worry.
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Fair to Israel and fair to Palestine.is the answer.
Its a no-brainer surely?
sometines I think Rightworld doesn't want peace, just perpetual war/conflict, like the taleban. Is it just me that thinks that?
sometines I think Rightworld doesn't want peace, just perpetual war/conflict, like the taleban. Is it just me that thinks that?,/i>
You are far from alone. The far-right is obsessed with 'strategies of tension'. They may work for a while but many many people are wise to that game now.
sometines I think Rightworld doesn't want peace, just perpetual war/conflict, like the taleban. Is it just me that thinks that?
You are far from alone. The far-right is obsessed with 'strategies of tension'. They may work for a while but many many people are wise to that game now.
Even Fox has reported, the McCain campaign is over, this lady lied about the B on her face
Cops: McCain Worker Made Up Attack Story
Any evidence that Khalidi is an anti-Semite?
I read the link and could find no evidence of "jew hatred" - can you point out to me? Otherwise withdraw the remark.
I do see he criticises suicide bombings that target civilians - surely a reasonable stance?
What is he being criticised for? - he didnt have moral problem with the PLO fighting the IDF when the latter invaded Lebanon? How absolutely unreasonable of him.
Laughably desperate post I am afraid.
'But hey, they are so busy with Sarah Palin's shoes...the big issues, you know?) This is why the modern media is such a danger to liberty - it does not impartially report - it selects'
David, did you have blogs on John Edwards's 400 dollar hair-cut?
If yes, then you too are a danger to liberty?
'Any evidence that Khalidi is an anti-Semite?'
DC, there does not appear to be any.
Daytripper, yes 'strategies of tension' are what has made the neo-con/rightist world tick
Halper and Clarke in 'America Alone, The Neo-Conservatives and the Global Order,' assert that the neo-conservative worldview revolves around three core themes: ‘the human condition is defined as a choice between good
(America) and evil (other)’; military power and the willingness to use it are the fundamental determinants in relations between states; and the Middle East and ‘global Islam’ should be the primary focus in U.S. foreign policy. These fundamental beliefs create certain predispositions: viewing foreign policy in terms of ‘black-and-white, absolute moral categories’; championing the unipolar power of the United States, undermining and disregarding conventional diplomacy, multilateral institutions or international law; considering international criticism of the US as evidence of American virtue or exceptionalism; harking back to the administration of former President Ronald Reagan as the beacon of moral clarity in foreign policy, ; and finally, regarding the use of military power as the first, rather than last resort in dealing with the enemy, particularly when anything less might be considered appeasement. The appeasement of Germany in Munich1938 is critical to understanding the neo-conservative mindset. It is the holocaust, and the failure of the international community to prevent or stop it, that clarifies the good versus evil moral distinctions, the fixation on preponderance and the utility of military force, the contempt for multilateral institutions like the UN, and international law such as the Geneva Conventions, the ongoing fixation with securing the state of Israel in the Middle East, and finally, the necessity for the United States to remain permanently engaged with foreign enemies such as Al Quaeda lest it withdraw into isolationism which, like appeasement, helped pave the way for Hitler in the 1930’s and the early years of WWII. In summary, the neo-conservative mind-set revolves around three reiterated themes- good versus evil, military preponderance and the willingness to use force pre-emptively and the Middle East.
But hey, they are so busy with Sarah Palin's shoes
David also posted on Palin's wardrobe, saying the price was worth it because she "looked a million dollars."
David is a threat to liberty, no less!!
It is the holocaust, and the failure of the international community to prevent or stop it, that clarifies the good versus evil moral distinctions, the fixation on preponderance and the utility of military force, the contempt for multilateral institutions like the UN, and international law such as the Geneva Conventions
Neo-Con lesson learnt from WW2. Be more like Germany.
Neo-Con lesson learnt from WW2. Be more like Germany.
Exactly right, DT.
There is no indication that Obama supports the policies favored by this dude from Columbia University. This kind of dirty politics doesn't seem to be working this time.
Then he just likes his company, eh Mahons?
Charles,
The connection is Columbia Univeristy, it is the common link between all.
It is not unusual for students, especially the more curious students, at any university, including Columbia, to join associations,volunteer groups, interest groups etc., and MOST especially in the Politics departments at the ivy leagues.
why would it be unusual for Obama to have dinner with, discussions with, connections with students and professors with whom he engaged throughout his academic career?
I know I do, and greatly value those people in my life.
Exactly Pinky...
As Phantom said, he has friends to the right of Troll and other friends who admire Castro. Is that wrong? Of course it's not, it's normal and healthy.
Charles - it is being offered to suggest he agrees with their activities, and he doesn't. You might get more mileage out of Wright, which was a real substantive connection.
There is no indication that Obama supports the policies favored by this dude from Columbia University.
Well, if you discount the frequent meals, house parties, warm words and the $40,000 Obama sent Khalidi's way, no evidence at all.
So what are these policies which Obama is supposed to support?
Any one of these associations could be brushed off as innocent, but but he seems to have so many.
Well, if you discount the frequent meals, house parties, warm words and the $40,000 Obama sent Khalidi's way, no evidence at all.
So Pete, please elaborate, what are the connections, what is wrong with them and where have the led?
Let's have some details, rather than projection.
Any one of these associations could be brushed off as innocent, but but he seems to have so many.
But everyone has associations, even you and I. What's the matter with having associations, building networks etc?
John Mc Cain has associations- some of them quite suspect, from my perspective.
Do you have any concern regarding those?
RS -
Probably Obama doesn't support any particular policy towards Israel and the Palestinians, even with his record of schmoozing with the obviously anti-semite Khalidi.
(Khalidi was a PLO official when it was listed as a terrorist organisation has has previous when it comes to rants about zionists, in Arabic, on al-Jazeera).
Obama is a blank slate no different from Blair, who is uncurious about the world, has no beliefs of his own and was always a puppet of Mandelson, Campbell and others.
In short, Blair was always do what was best for that cabal and Obama is no different.
Like Blair, Obama reflects what the audience wants. To Palestinians he's a liberator. To Israelis he's a staunch supporter of Israel. In office, he'd send both to hell with the stroke of a pen if it suited him.
Obama's association with Khalidi is important however, because Khalidi is a propagandist for terrorists, and you well know a man by his friends. Obama maybe could excuse away one unfortunate liason, but the list of 'innocent' friendships with terrorists and enemies of the American people and crooks grows longer by the day.
We're long past the point of excusing. Either Obama has agrees with these people, or (and this is at least partly true) he he was promoting himself, in which case his judgement falls well short of what is required in a President.
Well said Pete.
'with the obviously anti-semite Khalidi.'
How is he so obviously anti-semitic?
'Khalidi was a PLO official'
Have you evidence? He denies this and was never convicted of such.
'rants about zionists, in Arabic, on al-Jazeera'
Zionism is a fascist ideology. Whats wrong with ranting about it? whats wrong with speaking in Arabic? Whats wrong with appearing on Al Jazeera?
Any one of these associations could be brushed off as innocent, but but he seems to have so many.
Just like McCains links to US Council for World Freedom (He sat on their board). The ADL considered it a haven for Anti-Semites. It also had deep links to the Contras, among others.
Also, in another demonstration of hypocrisy, he will infact sit down with dictators He had a 'friendly'* meeting with Pinochet in 1985.
* John McCains own words.
-Zionism is a fascist ideology-
That's baby talk. Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. If its fascist then so was Michael Collins and Nelson Mandela and Lech Walesa and Winston Churchill and the governments or movements that they were involved in.
Pinky -
Khalidi and the 'zionists':
http://sandbox.blog-city.com/dr_rashid_and_mr_khalidi.htm
Dinners and general schmoozing:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamamideast10apr10,0,1780231,full.story
Channeling the bucks to Khalidi:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamamideast10apr10,0,1780231,full.story
Khalidi and Ayes being chums (don't these people keep on running into each other?):
http://www.uncorrelated.com/2008/10/obama_ayers_khalidi.html
Now let's get back to the point of the post - the MSM.
It's an MSM which holds the front page for the latest on Palin's shoes. It drops in to Alaska hit squads of crack reporters to dig the dirt and report over and over on 'Troopergate' (and to show the coverage that episode has, it's been accorded the '-gate' tag).
Yet time and time and time again Obama has shown either:
a) he supports plenty of lowlife filth, or;
b) repeated and continued rotten judgement in his choice of friends, associates and dinner companions.
Yet as far as the press is concerned the tumbleweed just keeps on blowing.
'Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people'
Tell me what nation were they liberating? Did Collins insist on a purely irish/catholic state which neccessitated the ethnic cleansing of an indigenous people? I suggest you look up UN resolution 3379 which was unfortunately revoked under presurre from guess who?
There is baby talk going on here alright, but it aint from me. You seem to forget that zionism was
No Phantom, it is a sick ideology which many Jews detest.
Taken to it's logcial conclusion, you get the settler movement - the Zio-nazis - who colonize the West Bank and terrorise the local population.
Charming group of "people"
So you even have to put the word people in quotation marks!@ Christ Almighty!
Have you watched the vid Charles?
Charles, what would you call men who beat up elderly women with sticks and clubs? But then you probably didn't watch the video before commented did you?
Words cannot possibly describe the contempt in which I hold these monsters.
To be honest, I'm at work, and the company filter stopped it. Even so.....
Even so nothing Charles.
Yes, even so DC, once you start saying "People" it's up to you who is a person or not, say with the unborn, but not to switch topics.
Let's stay on omaba shall we?
Charles in Texas -
Don't hurry home to watch it. It's a report that (IIRC) Channel 4 News here featured about two Israeli settlers who assaulted Palestinians.
Charles, what would you call men who beat up elderly women with sticks and clubs?
Possibly what you, I and most Israelis would call them. No doubt they'll grow up one day, become civilised, merely strap their children into semtex waistcoats and send them them off to obliterate elderly women. Then you can hail them as 'martyrs'.
Is whataboutery all you man manage Pete? No condemnation? Sad really.
Pete, and DC, then the 2 might be tried in a court of law. The left always seems see quick to remove personhood. Be it abortion clinics or gulags, alot of persons just seem to dissapear b/c of the left.
Pete,
Thanks for the links.
What do they prove?
then the 2 might be tried in a court of law
Perhaps because they were caught on camera, but in general these thugs get away scot free.
RS
Some Jews detest Zionism, like the quislings from upstate NY who came to grovel at the feet of the Iranian dictator a couple of years.
They received a very cold greeting from their Jewish neighbors upon returning, and are regarded as traitors by most.
Perhaps you can dig up some anti Islamic, pork eating and beer swilling Muslims, who will be a nice counterpoint to this lot and who will make about as much sense
Oh right so Jews who don't adhere to zionism are traitors or self-haters?
Pork and alcohol are forbidden by the Koran. So thats religious.
Zionism isn't religious Phantom, nor are the actions of the zionist enterprise advocated in the Torah.
You seek to compare prohibitions in a religion with a politcal ideology. Foolish to say the least.
DC -
I said I'd possibly call them what you would. Since this tape was shown (IIRC) on Channel 4 News, it's not certain what we see. If they are straight thugs assaulting Palestinians then good luck to the prosecutors.
I won't bother asking in return for condemnation of those Palestinians who dedicate their lives to causing death and misery amongst Israelis. You're not brave enough to be honest. You don't have the backbone to view events with a healthy, cynical eye. You lack the intellectual courage to unwrap the comfort blanket of anti-semitic delusion.
Don't bother replying. I've wasted enough words on the likes of you and the thread has gone off topic for too long.
Pinky -
Wakey wakey.
You asked for evidence to the connections (money channeled from Obama to Khalidi, their intimacy, etc) between Obama and Khalidi.
I gave you the links to the evidence, so why ask what I'm trying to prove?
You asked, I supplied. There you go.
The links between Obama and Khalidi are tangible and worthy of investigation. The point of the post is that the press is deliberately ignoring the story.
The charge against the press appears to be proven.
Both barrels there pete, nicely rounded off with the typical rightworld 'your anti-semitic' shite. I'd hazard a guess that its the fact that because those of us who take issue with zionism generally have a better understanding of history and the facts that you and your rightworld buddies need to resort to such nonsense.
'Pinky -
Wakey wakey.
You asked for evidence to the connections (money channeled from Obama to Khalidi, their intimacy, etc) between Obama and Khalidi.
I gave you the links to the evidence, so why ask what I'm trying to prove?
You asked, I supplied. There you go. '
No No Pete, I was asking you what do they ( your links) prove. Sure we already knew the topics,now we need to know what they mean.
if they mean Obama has relationships with people he studied with at Columbia University- qell we knew that .
But what do they mean to you?
The point of the post is that the press is deliberately ignoring the story.
What Story??????
That Obama has associates from his college days?
So do I, so what?